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Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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I’m a huge skeptic, but I’ve been following this very closely over the past few months. Fermi’s paradox has two good answers — we don’t see aliens because they don’t exist, or we don’t see them because they are here already. They should be here already. The paradox is about why we don’t see them. Being skeptical is different than doubt-by-default. A skeptic is curious and slow to judge. So with great curiosity, I’ve…

I don't get why no one ever throws out time travel as an explanation over extraterrestrial. Given the limit of the speed of information and the expansion of the universe, there's a VERY small area that would even be aware of the signals we've started sending out over the past century to come looking. But Earth would be an extremely interesting destination....for future Earth. Though personally the most likely answer…

If you travel "back in time" you don't enter your own timeline but another universe where you were Always going to appear.

Time travel (backwards) is not possible, only inter-universe travel.

What has happened has always happened and will always have happened.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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I’m a huge skeptic, but I’ve been following this very closely over the past few months. Fermi’s paradox has two good answers — we don’t see aliens because they don’t exist, or we don’t see them because they are here already. They should be here already. The paradox is about why we don’t see them. Being skeptical is different than doubt-by-default. A skeptic is curious and slow to judge. So with great curiosity, I’ve…

> we don’t see aliens because they don’t exist, or we don’t see them because they are here already imo most likely is they exist, but space is just so unimaginable huge, and also Aliens can at most go close to lightspeed. They didn't beat physics nor invented portals / wormholes? > They should be here already. Least likely for me out of the three options.. just our tinfoil hat love :)

did you even read what Fermi Paradox is?

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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>Grusch was a GS15 NGA officer that was read into over 2000 special access programs and prepared/delivered the presidential daily briefing in 2021. He’s quite literally one of the most credentialed intelligence officers in the US. This is way more common than you think it is and again, not special. I prepped multiple PDBs from 2012-2015 while at DIA and then again while on the JS/J2 staff. Delivering a segment of the…

What was your rank? How many SAPs were you read into? Having Top Secret SCI clearance does not give you immediate access to every SAP you request to be read into. Most people are not read into more that a dozen SAPs. I’ll also point out that if Grusch was an unexceptional IC officer, the pentagon would easily be able to discredit him as such. To date, the pentagon has not attempted to say anything about Grusch’s cred…

So.... argument from authority?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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not sure I agree, the universe could go on to be hundreds of billions or trillions of years old, against which 13 (or maybe 26) billion years is really the same scale as the first humans venturing out of Africa just a few tens of millenia ago.

The universe potentially getting really old doesn't make it more likely for us to be the first. It is incredibly unlikely.

I don't follow your reasoning at all. Unless intelligent life appeared everywhere in the universe spontaneously at the same instant, which seems rather unlikely, then someone has to be first.

If the universe has, on the scale of potentially uncountable trillions of years, just barely reached a stage where the probability of life appearing has risen above "infinitely small" then there's nothing chauvinistic or anthropocentric about speculating that we're it.

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The whistleblower former intelligence official David Grusch says he faced “very brutal and very unfortunate” retaliation after he went public with his allegations. Intelligence personnel swear to keep their mouths shut. He has no real evidence and no real compelling reason that I'm seeing for coming forward. What did he expect?

Not all of them have jobs involving keeping secrets. Some involve disinformation.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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It's pretty obvious what to make of it. The guy is an attention seeking nut, and it's a huge waste of time.

Did you watch it? He doesn't come off that way. He testified under oath. Every time he was asked for specifics, he said he had them, had already provided them, or in some cases would provide them immediately after because they were classified--which is the proper response if you don't want to go to jail. If he's a nut, you'd expect evasion, contradiction, waffling and avoidance when asked for specifics. I didn't see…

He sure came off that way to me.

Body language, manner of speech, everything.

Just look at his eyes, they scream "I'm full of shit".

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If, as alleged, the government has been running a many decade disinformation campaign on the UAP issue, what are the odds that everyone in this thread is a legitimate commenter? To what level would comment threads such as this be manipulated in different ways in order to maintain/push the narrative the government wants? How do you even attempt to have conversations about something like this when such a powerful adver…

I don't want to be unfair because there are certainly lots of smart well informed people out there on many websites, but I suspect that intelligence agents would focus on sites with more users and users that generally have less discernment than in HN.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Huh? You’re telling me you think they can travel light years to get here but don’t have the tech to land without us detecting them? That’s an assumption.

Assuming FTL is off the table, anything sent here will have been designed and launched with no evidence the subject planet has radars or air combat hardware. One should expect probes to have no air combat capability, and may not even bother to dodge a missile, even if they (incidentally) have very good aerodynamic performance.

If they don't have FYL then it's ridiculous that they'd send what are effectively tiny scout ships that don't have stealth tech to avoid the Other Aliens and that crash at alarming rates With Living Pilots inside...

Really...

Just look at the claim objectively and it becomes obvious it's absurd.

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