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Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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But there are democrats joining republicans in investigating this. Senator Gillibrand and Chick Schumer have introduced legislation specifically targeting this.

Gives the Qanon crazies on the right wing something a bit safer to chew on.

Or this situation gives the dogmatic hacker news posters something to hit refresh for

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"Whistleblower tells Congress US is concealing 'multi-decade' UFO capture program" --> "Whistleblower is deluded" There's no UFOs. Well let me clarify - there's no aliens. If there are UFOs then they are made right here on earth and just need close up, non fuzzy photos.

And you know this for a fact because?

Because aliens would not go to the unbelievable effort of traveling between the stars and then carefully hide from detection on a planet brimming with human activity, somehow knowing how to make themselves invisible, and yet still being here for some reason.

The concept of "anonymous" alien visitation is self evidently silly.

But also, the concept of traveling between the stars is also so unlikely as to be effectively impossible. If you don't agree, then you don't really grasp the distance to the stars.

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I’m a huge skeptic, but I’ve been following this very closely over the past few months. Fermi’s paradox has two good answers — we don’t see aliens because they don’t exist, or we don’t see them because they are here already. They should be here already. The paradox is about why we don’t see them. Being skeptical is different than doubt-by-default. A skeptic is curious and slow to judge. So with great curiosity, I’ve…

> or we don’t see them because they are here already.

If we expected to see them far away, how would them being here prevent us from doing that (and also from seeing other presumably existing alien species that are not here)?

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You expect me to believe that regardless of origin, the US Government wouldnt pursue unknown objects?

If those objects are people at the southern border, then they're the first to throw some bullshit finger-wagging about a requirement to register at some country they passed while fleeing for their lives with some buggy app. Americans are shocked that the tax-dodging neoliberals in power don't differ significantly in policy from the previous administration who rounded up children in cages, separated from their parents, and lost them to abusive, exploitative foster care parents who sometimes made them work in dangerous factories below the legal age of work, e.g., effectively child slave labor.

Or if those objects are also people who have an AGI It's also problematic, a distraction, and a waste of resources to address mythological and conspiratorial topics, like having a flat earth research committee.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/03/sunday-review/tax-rich-ir... https://archive.is/lNEng

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/17/super-wealthy-irs-tax-audits...

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Blurry photos do not stop people from posting them in many other cases. Planes do not have to be equipped as such: there's so many people flying with GoPro-s and similar recording all the time that we'd get something popping up all the time. And that's even if we ignore the claim that people repeatedly see something. If I was a pilot and spotted something weird more than once, I'd make sure I record every flight from…

Well, here’s some of the most interesting videos I’ve seen taken by people. * https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/13dmaif/black_triangl... * https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/12kaed7/2010_ufo_that... * https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/t4smpl/flyby_uap_foot... * https://imgur.io/a/seWVHB6 I’ve done some basic research and can attest none of these are at least CGI made. Some of these predate photoshop. Th…

Yup, that's exactly what I meant. Those are worth analysing and talking about. I'd be glad if there were even fewer barriers to reporting those. But it also proves the barriers are not that big and a bit of an excuse.

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So just to give everyone here a bit of context. This hearing was not for the UFO Believers to be used as official disclosure. This was not to convince any skeptics out there this is real. This is a political tool for the congressional oversight committee (who themselves may not have any evidence) to put into record what they need to follow up on using their power of the purse and oversight rights. Is this an issue of…

I’ve never really believed in aliens/UFO sightings, but have been doing some online reading the last 6months. The forums are filled with 99% delusional people trying to connect made-up information to every other conspiracy theory out there. Most seem to detract from their cause

I watched the whole congressional forum today and those guys are probably the most well-spoken people I’ve ever heard discussing UAP/aliens/NHI. Also, one of the more bipartisan and civil congressional hearings I’ve witnessed in recent memory.

It’s definitely intriguing to say the least and I have a hard time doubting that these guys have not witnessed what they say they witnessed, both with their eyes and in terms of government programs/secrecy/misallocated funds. Now if those UAPs are NHI or government-created machines or something else, hopefully we will find out eventually.

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Absolutely uninformed take. - The (democrat) senate majority leader mentioned "non human intelligence" - Rubio _is_ worried about "ET", per multiple interviews where this is presented as a likely explanation for the observed behavior - No, an "AI Controlled drone" does not "fit the quotes description", not in the slightest. You are either grossly misinformed about the claims, the capabilities of modern aircraft (blac…

Computers aren’t human. Thus, non-human. If I were a congressional leader, I’d be more than a little concerned about swarms of unidentified drones flying around ships in US territorial waters. The implication of aliens is a “Lucy with the football” play — a certain number of people always take the bait, and others laugh. It was done in the 50s, again in the 80s when Tomahawk missiles and stealth aircraft were tested,…

Lucy In The Sky, With Football

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Well, here’s some of the most interesting videos I’ve seen taken by people. * https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/13dmaif/black_triangl... * https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/12kaed7/2010_ufo_that... * https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/t4smpl/flyby_uap_foot... * https://imgur.io/a/seWVHB6 I’ve done some basic research and can attest none of these are at least CGI made. Some of these predate photoshop. Th…

Yup, that's exactly what I meant. Those are worth analysing and talking about. I'd be glad if there were even fewer barriers to reporting those. But it also proves the barriers are not that big and a bit of an excuse.

There is actually still a barrier both militarily and commercially until. The military still has mostly no formal structure for UAP reporting. AARO is working to set that up but only has a portion of the Naval Air Force set up and not any other branch. Commercially, there is nothing. I believe congressmen are writing a law that requires the reporting of UAP by commercial airliners but that won't go into effect until at least mid next year. So while pilots may have this data, they don't have a formal way to report it other than showing it to a buddy.

I hope this gets resolved soon, but I also hope this data doesn't become immediately classified.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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What convinces all of the aliens to crash their UFOs in America? Or is every govt part of the conspiracy?

The recent testimony says it started with the Italians and the Vatican helping out in the 1930s.

Your point stands though. If these things are crashing then surely they would have crashed on some Third World hell-hole where the population would happily collect the debris and sell it to whoever wants to pay. It would be hard to cover something like that up. The US likes to think they are everything, everywhere, all at once, but it's not entirely true.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Everyone who is making the snarky comments have never had an encounter with a UAP. My brothers and some of my friends had them twice when we were kids in New York. You all are calling us a distraction, but it is absolutely nowhere in the news. If it was this distraction, it would be headline on CNN. But it’s not. I literally know no one that knew this hearing was going on today.

It was pretty amazing that CNN didn't seem to cover it at all online. I couldn't find any reference to the hearings on their web site while they were ongoing. It might (or might not) be bullshit, but it is still interesting to have congress talk about little green men, so I would have expected something. They were more interested in Biden's son's failed plea deal.

OTOH the BBC in the UK ran it as their headline and dedicated an entire live feed and various articles to it.

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