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Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The alien and ancient civilization stuff comes mostly from the gop. Rubio isn’t worried about ET - but bullshit like this is appealing to the nutjobs attracted to qanon, etc who vote. UAPs aren’t little green men. A drone with AI controls fits the quotes description.

Absolutely uninformed take. - The (democrat) senate majority leader mentioned "non human intelligence" - Rubio _is_ worried about "ET", per multiple interviews where this is presented as a likely explanation for the observed behavior - No, an "AI Controlled drone" does not "fit the quotes description", not in the slightest. You are either grossly misinformed about the claims, the capabilities of modern aircraft (blac…

Computers aren’t human. Thus, non-human.

If I were a congressional leader, I’d be more than a little concerned about swarms of unidentified drones flying around ships in US territorial waters.

The implication of aliens is a “Lucy with the football” play — a certain number of people always take the bait, and others laugh. It was done in the 50s, again in the 80s when Tomahawk missiles and stealth aircraft were tested, etc. Now the prospect of aliens is covering for some threat.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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"Whistleblower tells Congress US is concealing 'multi-decade' UFO capture program" --> "Whistleblower is deluded" There's no UFOs. Well let me clarify - there's no aliens. If there are UFOs then they are made right here on earth and just need close up, non fuzzy photos.

And you know this for a fact because?

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

#334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's why I said evidence. I'm not expecting them to tell tales of UFO sightings. Having a video of something does not reflect on your mental state (unless you faked it). This issue also doesn't apply to passengers and there's lots of people in the sky who don't have a pilot's licence to protect.

Most planes aren’t equipped with any camera systems. The videos commercial pilots and passengers use are their phones which have trouble focusing on objects half a mile away (which is very close for an aircraft to be next to another one but very far for your phone to focus on). Military pilots do have camera systems like the ATFLIR pods on F-18s but the pentagon only declassifies those videos when it’s useful - like…

Blurry photos do not stop people from posting them in many other cases. Planes do not have to be equipped as such: there's so many people flying with GoPro-s and similar recording all the time that we'd get something popping up all the time.

And that's even if we ignore the claim that people repeatedly see something. If I was a pilot and spotted something weird more than once, I'd make sure I record every flight from then on - can't imagine not doing it.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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For those asking "Why now?" ... here's a couple wild takes:

The Interstellar Squid have arrived. They're hanging out around Saturn (cf "largest comet ever"). Even after a century of preparation and propaganda, there is a large fraction of humanity who refuses to conceive of intelligence other than human. This is the last gasp at preparing them.

That, or the political corruption has gotten so rank that they're scraping the bottom of the bin for "lookit the shiny!" distraction stories.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

#336
true,

UFO == Unknown Flying Object

at least since the cold war the US had a lot of interest to capture any unknown flying objects and also not disclose much information about capabilities, scope etc. of such a program

Can this objects be strange? sure I mean it who knows what the Soviet Union invents. Just looking at some of the research Nazi Germany did (and which ended up in the hands of the US) they would be stupid not to do so just to be sure not to miss something.

But does that mean such a program had anything to do with aliens? Not really. But if you already have the program you already keep track of any unexplained aerial phenomena, so people speculating about aliens is basically guaranteed.

Why would you still disclose such things today?

Maybe you where responsible for some missing/crashed Soviet Aircraft or maybe some civilian casualties. Maybe by researching what causes what phenomena you develop some unusual plan which was never used (or build) but has successors which could be relevant if a WW3/Cold War2 starts. Who knows.

What I know is that all the examples about how supposedly we now have stuff based on alien tech seem nonsensical to me, as there is a long paper trail of how people invested that stuff it's parts it's non widely available predecessors etc.

Similar a program not related to aliens seems likely.

And people, including employees etc., coming up with all kind of "interesting" ideas what such a secret program actually does is also well in the area of what I would expect given my understanding of humans.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

#337

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But there are democrats joining republicans in investigating this. Senator Gillibrand and Chick Schumer have introduced legislation specifically targeting this.

Gives the Qanon crazies on the right wing something a bit safer to chew on.

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Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

#338

"Whistleblower tells Congress US is concealing 'multi-decade' UFO capture program" --> "Whistleblower is deluded" There's no UFOs. Well let me clarify - there's no aliens. If there are UFOs then they are made right here on earth and just need close up, non fuzzy photos.

And you know this for a fact because?

Same reason fuzzy Big Foot photos and fuzzy Chupacabra photos don’t prove anything, despite earnest testimony from those who took them.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

#340

"Whistleblower tells Congress US is concealing 'multi-decade' UFO capture program" --> "Whistleblower is deluded" There's no UFOs. Well let me clarify - there's no aliens. If there are UFOs then they are made right here on earth and just need close up, non fuzzy photos.

And you know this for a fact because?

nobody knows anything for a fact. But we have our priors.

Our priors should reflect no radio transmissions from aliens, no non-blurry pictures of UFOs, etc etc

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