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Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by 9dev »

jdwithit wrote: post #144
montagg wrote: post #124

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Trump would have done so. It would have been impossible for him to keep a secret. His need to stroke his own ego wouldn’t allow it. When Trump ended his term without once mentioning aliens, that’s when I was certain all of this was hogwash. Are there maybe very advanced aircraft out there we should be aware of? Certainly. But it’s definitely not aliens without hard af evidence.

This is a good point. Remember the time he revealed highly classified spy satellite capabilities by posting an extremely detailed photo of an Iranian nuclear site ON TWITTER [0]? He cannot help himself if there's a chance to show off. Although, the nice thing about conspiracy theories is you can always just layer on another explanation. Obviously the Deep State didn't trust Trump with this dangerous knowledge, so the…

I’d usually side with you and Hanlon‘s razor, but in this case… not trusting Trump with anything sharper than a children’s toy knife sounds pretty reasonable, no? Is it really so far-fetched some agencies would do everything in their power to keep a low profile and The Menace out of their business?

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Post by eeeficus »

dtx1 wrote: post #154

So just to give everyone here a bit of context. This hearing was not for the UFO Believers to be used as official disclosure. This was not to convince any skeptics out there this is real. This is a political tool for the congressional oversight committee (who themselves may not have any evidence) to put into record what they need to follow up on using their power of the purse and oversight rights. Is this an issue of…

This comment should be first comment. Instead, I had to endure the HN intelligentsia writing non-sense with the specific arrogance of know-it-alls!

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Post by riversflow »

ryanSrich wrote: post #122
LapsangGuzzler wrote: post #118

Snowden spent quite a bit of time looking for UFO stuff since he had access to almost everything classified and never found any evidence. I’m not saying this whistleblower is definitely lying, but if anyone was capable and willing to bring this forward with receipts, Snowden would’ve done so.

That proves nothing though. US Government data is so siloed it’s possible Snowden would not have access to UFO info even if he had access to essentially everything the NSA had access to.

Yup. Not military, but have significantly researched the U.S. secret keeping system because I’ve long been enthralled by espionage. As I understand it, any classified document can be SCI, secure compartmentalize information(I think this is used for spy stuff, barely anyone needs to be able to link a spy’s real ID to their assumed ID, the less people who know the better), or be part of an SAP, Special Access Program(which is more about highly secret projects, it seems, like the 6th gen fighter we’re probably building/have built), both of which have access control which is granted on a need-to-know basis.

And, fyi, as I understand it, “I’m your superior”, is not a valid reason to need-to-know. Need-to-know is, as I understand it, at the discretion of the secret keepers.

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Post by meepmorp »

potench wrote: post #162
shepardrtc wrote: post #135

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They said nothing about a pilot. He said they found "biologics". Doesn't mean it was a pilot.

> “I don’t want to oversimplify it, but how are you going to fly one [spaceship]? You got to have somebody in it. That seems to be pretty simple,” Burchett said. “Simple” is not the word I’d use to describe this conclusion.

One meaning of the word simple is naive and/or unintelligent, so depending on your attitude, simple might be a perfectly good word to use here.

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Post by nvy »

BobbyJo wrote: post #174
nvy wrote: post #151

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Didn't he have a special PRIVACC designation that allowed him to bypass traditional "need to know" silo boundaries, under the auspices of being a sysadmin or whatever?

These systems are commonly air-gapped. Unless he physically went around to the various SCIFs, where the information would be, it doesn't matter what kind of access he had.

>These systems are commonly air-gapped

Do you have direct experience? Because this is contradictory to my own experience.

When I was in the Air Force we had access to various classified networks at levels up to and including TS. You often needed to be in a SCIF and/or have TEMPEST-rated equipment to log in, depending on the context, but the systems are networked nonetheless.

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Post by uhmyeh »

nonethewiser wrote: post #166
uhmyeh wrote: post #155

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This stuff was popular in the Reagan era too. Odd to see it reappear right after Ronnie Junior left office They need performative theatre of such dramatic potential they can distract from the Senates bill about banning Congress owning stocks Edit: I don’t mean just the stock bill. They need to keep Overton window where it is.

Im not ruling out these UFO hearings are a conspiracy. Some sort of intelligence misdirection. But I recognize this is pure speculation. But cover for not banning congress from stock trading? Really? What is your basis?

Colleagues in PR who have contrived one scenario after another in the media to make events go viral at the expense of others

Are you seeing aliens all over? Sure is convenient they can travel time and space and just happen to crash on Earth … just like in TV shows!

There are models to refer to; how much attention we process on average. Gaming that with noise is not hard for mega billion dollar corps and politicians comfortable with never working

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Post by joezydeco »

ericb wrote: post #177
joezydeco wrote: post #152

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More precisely, a civilization that can master interstellar travel and navigation but somehow keeps crashing on our planet?

It's a fair point. If you rephrase it as "a civilization that mastered interplanetary travel and can split the atom somehow keeps crashing on our planet" it makes me wonder. What if bugs, suicidal or thrill-seeking pilots or overly confident bureaucracies remain a fixture in the next stages of life's evolution as well? Or what if fixing those problems is harder than the technology?

Or, perhaps, that civilization is using found technology from UFOs that crashed on their planet and they haven't quite figured out where the brake pedal is, yet?

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Post by yuvadam »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #52
yuvadam wrote: post #46

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How would he go about that in an unclassified setting?

The same way every other whistleblower who has been successful in the past has done it: providing direct incontrovertible evidence to the public

This guy went through all the appropriate channels and is still facing retaliation.

Or are you expecting him to just pull a Snowden, leak everything and be charged with espionage?

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Post by shadowgovt »

pengaru wrote: post #176
nvy wrote: post #151

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Didn't he have a special PRIVACC designation that allowed him to bypass traditional "need to know" silo boundaries, under the auspices of being a sysadmin or whatever?

For anything like this to stay a secret this long, it's obviously not discoverable by a keyboard jockey having root privileges across the network. You don't need to know more acronyms to infer such things.

Which should be considered surprising in the era of modern international communications, technology, and intel sharing.

The odds of evidence of a UFO hitting the wrong comms channel and then not being seen by someone before getting scrubbed are staggeringly low. So for someone to have wide access across multiple silos and then hear nothing, one must assume either the conspiracy to hide the evidence of UFOs is supernaturally good or the conspiracy is both still using off-grid solutions to coordinate internationally and is somehow suppressing information that should be in their silo from ever landing in the wrong silo.

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Post by sneak »

dwringer wrote: post #172
LapsangGuzzler wrote: post #118

Snowden spent quite a bit of time looking for UFO stuff since he had access to almost everything classified and never found any evidence. I’m not saying this whistleblower is definitely lying, but if anyone was capable and willing to bring this forward with receipts, Snowden would’ve done so.

Isn't the majority of what Snowden leaked still being privately held from the public?

Yes.
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