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Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by anigbrowl »

ToValueFunfetti wrote: post #35
whycome wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weird with that many comments and votes that its on like page 5 of HN and this one quickly shot to front page. Maybe @dang can combine them in a hurry.

I imagine HN's algo punishes high comment/vote ratio submissions because they tend to be controversial.

It does and it's quite annoying, given that controversy is often a source of insight. I think this guy is probably BSing and that these hearings are a sideshow, but I'm still interested in the nuggets that come out of these discussions and don't mind they fall short of being perfect examples of discourse.

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

yuvadam wrote: post #46
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #44

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Because he hasn’t demonstrated anything that indicates that he’s not just purely fabricating all of this for publicity

How would he go about that in an unclassified setting?

The same way every other whistleblower who has been successful in the past has done it: providing direct incontrovertible evidence to the public

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Post by realce »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #42

The whistleblower former intelligence official David Grusch says he faced “very brutal and very unfortunate” retaliation after he went public with his allegations. Intelligence personnel swear to keep their mouths shut. He has no real evidence and no real compelling reason that I'm seeing for coming forward. What did he expect?

> What did he expect?

Why this cynical attitude? Perhaps he did expect it and he is now clearly and publicly stating it in a congressional record so something might be done about other whistleblowers.

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candiddevmike wrote: post #8
Timon3 wrote: post #6

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A whistleblower is alleging that information has been kept from Congress. Why do you expect Congress to know that information?

The various congressional committees are supposed to know everything the federal government is doing so they can provide oversight, AFAIK. Something big like UFOs should have come up I'd imagine

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Post by bostonsre »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #42

The whistleblower former intelligence official David Grusch says he faced “very brutal and very unfortunate” retaliation after he went public with his allegations. Intelligence personnel swear to keep their mouths shut. He has no real evidence and no real compelling reason that I'm seeing for coming forward. What did he expect?

They take an oath to serve the United States. If they notice illegal activity that can't be resolved through the chain of command, they have a responsibility to speak up and resolve it through being a whistle blower. We also don't know what evidence he has. It could be bullshit or it could be actual evidence but people on hacker news won't know the truth.

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Post by anigbrowl »

whycome wrote: post #20
jmclnx wrote: post #3

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Glad to hear that, not like there is nothing else important happening in the US. What next, hearings on Big Foot :)

The hearing is utterly bizarre and surreal. Like theater but everyone is keeping a straight face. (also, 'Mrs. Luna' is asking questions and her character name seems too on-the-nose.) Former commander says he didn't believe in UFOs and defends himself with "I never watched history channel or anything like that" -- as though that's a source for UFOs rather than...history.

This is such an ancient meme that it has entries in normal dictionaries.

https://www.dictionary.com/e/memes/ancient-aliens/

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Post by coding123 »

srvmshr wrote: post #50

In theory, maybe possible. But honest-to-god critical thinking/sincere question: given that multiple countries have had satellites, deep space observation methods, giant telescopes etc how is that alien ingress have never been noticed? Aliens couldn't have known that US/UK were the preferred destinations - countries with large surface areas like Australia, Russia, Brazil and India don't report such activities in gene…

The human ability to deny to others and oneself is stronger than we think. There's a vast set of people that saw them in Phoenix, astronauts, there's evidence in many places that we tend to ignore.

I've met Travis Walton. He is one of the most genuine people I have ever met. We're just not listening (some people are but most are not capable of hearing it).

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Post by doodlebugging »

themagician wrote: post #7
mirpetri wrote: post #4

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Red herring

Not really. There is good evidence that sightings of Big Foot are actually linked to the same department responsible for dealing with extraterrestrials on earth.

What is non-earth origin DNA that you mention in your reply to another post?

How would you know it was not from earth? Is it as simple as there being no evidence of any contamination by hair colorants, straighteners, shampoos, or any products sold by Proctor and Gamble?

I too would like to see actual links to any evidence or documentation of these events and products so I can see for myself.

Bigfoot is almost a cottage industry and is definitely a tourist bait in some areas.

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Post by themagician »

srvmshr wrote: post #50

In theory, maybe possible. But honest-to-god critical thinking/sincere question: given that multiple countries have had satellites, deep space observation methods, giant telescopes etc how is that alien ingress have never been noticed? Aliens couldn't have known that US/UK were the preferred destinations - countries with large surface areas like Australia, Russia, Brazil and India don't report such activities in gene…

The DoD loves the myths. It's not about the existent of extraterrestrials. It's about a government so powerful that they would be able to cover it up and keep it secret. A government that can hide the existence of extraterrestrials, that can fake a moon landing, that can demolish skyscrapers in the middle of a city, is a powerful government and one that needs trillions of dollars a year. The amorphous "they" wants you to believe.

Worth noting that Russia does actually have similar myths, likely for the same reasons.

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Post by coding123 »

jmclnx wrote: post #3
whycome wrote: post #2

Congress holds hearing about claims US government has UFO evidence

Glad to hear that, not like there is nothing else important happening in the US. What next, hearings on Big Foot :)

What is happening? Seriously we already know about Hunter Biden. What is happening today that wasn't happening yesterday that you think this is actually an attention distraction?
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