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Sinead O’Connor has died

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Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by chimeracoder »

pmarreck wrote: post #81
xnx wrote: post #39

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Nothing Compares 2 U reliably induces frisson/goosebumps in me. Rare that a cover can match a Prince original: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_Compares_2_U

honest question: is the "frisson/goosebumps" thing not called ASMR now?

> honest question: is the "frisson/goosebumps" thing not called ASMR now?

No, ASMR is a completely separate phenomenon, although the term has since been adapted to refer to a general aural aesthetic, rather than the physiological phenomenon it induces in some people.

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by nailer »

michaelsbradley wrote: post #91
nailer wrote: post #61

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Same. As a child, I thought the Pope and the church helped poor people and practiced showing people how to be good to each other by following the ten commandments. When Sinead O Connor ripped up the picture of the Pope on SNL I remember asking why. Someone said the reason was because she was crazy. They were lying to me. Sinead O'Connor was drawing attention to child sexual abuse when nobody else was. > She’s far mor…

Ratzinger / Benedict absolutely deliberately prevented investigation into, and facilitated (by moving rapist priests into new parishes), child sexual abuse. No, not really at all, actually: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_XVI#Sexual_abuse...

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Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by bigbillheck »

notfromhere wrote: post #44
acheron wrote: post #29

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A whole institution spent decades covering up child sexual abuse and you’re complaining about decorum? People upset with her over that completely missed what they should be mad about.

Bet it's a whole lot more than 'decades'.

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by parker_mountain »

wnevets wrote: post #94
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #88

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Who is calling it a new phenomenon? The only thing new about it is the name.

Virtually everyone who complains about it. The complains are almost always about how sensitive people are today , how blazing saddles couldn't be made today or whatever non-sense they use to rage farm. Its almost always framed as a today problem.

The problem they have, of course, is not that cancel culture exists. It's that the center of force of "cancellation" went from the right to the left. The thing they used to great effect against queer people, anti-religious people, etc, is now being directed at them. It sucks being on the other side.

I personally think that things are too "hot" right now, but nobody should pretend this is a modern problem.

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by unethical_ban »

wnevets wrote: post #64
robertheadley wrote: post #5

She never deserved to be shunned.

It's hard not to laugh whenever people talk about "cancel culture" being a new phenomenon. The amount of hate she received for merely bringing up the horrible actions the catholic church committed was absurd.

Fwiw I think of cancel culture as a concern when it happens to the everyday professor, presenter and so on. But you are correct, product and celebrity protests for cultural statements are nothing new.

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by johnohara »

I am deeply saddened by her passing. Her performances always featured powerful vocals driven by equally powerful emotion.

But her version of Pink Floyd's "Mother," performed live in Berlin in 1990 with Roger Waters, Rick Danko, Levon Helm, and Garth Hudson, was Sinead at her most vulnerable and in my opinion, a full expression of her soul.

Audio with onstage video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRbKXACBaoc

High quality audio only: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSd0Yl5mDuU

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by unethical_ban »

There are a number of flagged comments which don't deserve it. And as long as there is no outlet for objecting to poor flagging decisions, I'll use the comments section to call attention to it.

If we are going to have a discussion about a performer unafraid of controversy and who struggled with mental and spiritual concerns publicly, a robust conversation should be allowed.

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by kodt »

wnevets wrote: post #94
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is calling it a new phenomenon? The only thing new about it is the name.

Virtually everyone who complains about it. The complains are almost always about how sensitive people are today , how blazing saddles couldn't be made today or whatever non-sense they use to rage farm. Its almost always framed as a today problem.

I think the real complaint is over who has the power to "cancel" someone, and being upset at how that has shifted.
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