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Sinead O’Connor has died

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Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by bmmayer1 »

synetic wrote: post #30

I remember being outraged at her tearing up John Paul II’s picture. The media in the U.S. did a great job of hiding why she did it. I was not outraged at her when I found out her justified reasons for doing so. That was the first time I became consciously aware that news is a business and that that business thrives when it generates outrage. I no longer fall victim to this. She’s far more the saint than that bastard…

This was arguably one of the first "cancellations" before "cancel culture" was a thing we were talking about.

Right or wrong, what she did was definitely courageous and arguably destroyed her career.

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

osullish wrote: post #38
basisword wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you not think your comment would have been better without the final sentence?

I think his last sentence doesn't go far enough - I'm not sure how far I'd need to go to describe someone who covered up systemic child abuse on a global scale

It always confused me how, at least in Boston, many many priests (but not the most egregious one or two) avoided prosecution for child abuse.

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by notfromhere »

acheron wrote: post #29
TehCorwiz wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A protest that doesn’t make anyone uncomfortable has no teeth.

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A whole institution spent decades covering up child sexual abuse and you’re complaining about decorum?

People upset with her over that completely missed what they should be mad about.

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by [deleted] »

osullish wrote: post #38
basisword wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you not think your comment would have been better without the final sentence?

I think his last sentence doesn't go far enough - I'm not sure how far I'd need to go to describe someone who covered up systemic child abuse on a global scale

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Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by notfromhere »

toyg wrote: post #40
slillibri wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but I’m certain that random internet speculation helps no one at this point.

There would have been no speculation if the family had stated an uncontroversial cause of death. Instead they "requested privacy", which means it was likely something people would have judged her for.

That just means suicide and the press usually doesn’t publish it to not encourage copycats.

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by [deleted] »

bmmayer1 wrote: post #41
synetic wrote: post #30

I remember being outraged at her tearing up John Paul II’s picture. The media in the U.S. did a great job of hiding why she did it. I was not outraged at her when I found out her justified reasons for doing so. That was the first time I became consciously aware that news is a business and that that business thrives when it generates outrage. I no longer fall victim to this. She’s far more the saint than that bastard…

This was arguably one of the first "cancellations" before "cancel culture" was a thing we were talking about. Right or wrong, what she did was definitely courageous and arguably destroyed her career.

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Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by subpixel »

jawns wrote: post #22
robertheadley wrote: post #5

She never deserved to be shunned.

Even if you strongly agree with her criticism of the pope, the way that she expressed that criticism -- by deceiving everyone on SNL to pull off her stunt -- certainly branded her as a loose cannon in the industry. Unpredictability might entertain audiences, but it's a huge liability from an entertainment industry perspective. And arguably, her antics greatly overshadowed the message she was trying to get across. How…

Elvis Costello lied to SNL as well, and then produced one of the best musical performances on that show, _ever_.

Elvis was protesting corporate control and homogeneity. Sinead was protesting institutions that enabled evil. Who cares if some suits were made uncomfortable.

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