What is anti-vax about it?
Community Note correcting Musk’s anti-vax tweet mysteriously disappears
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Re: Community Note correcting Musk’s anti-vax tweet mysteriously disappears
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was always about the right wing kind of free speech - free to harass and insult people, freedom from consequences.
Right because that's objectionable speech. You don't need to worry about non-objectionable speech because no one would care to censor it. I don't know what you mean by freedom on consequences. I guess a consequence of speech could be to get your account banned? If anything Twitter leaving up your objectionable content would result in more likely conferences of being fired or something.
And yet, Elon has decided that a term used in academic medical research for nearly a century, “cisgender”, is a slur and banned from the platform. Funny how he wants to protect objectionable speech that aligns with his political view while restricting “objectionable” speech that doesn’t.
Re: Community Note correcting Musk’s anti-vax tweet mysteriously disappears
#73Re: Community Note correcting Musk’s anti-vax tweet mysteriously disappears
#74I’m surprised when I see people uncritically repeating the claim that Twitter now aims for “free speech.” It’s clear that was never true and always meant “Speech Elon wants to allow.”
It was always about the right wing kind of free speech - free to harass and insult people, freedom from consequences.
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Re: Community Note correcting Musk’s anti-vax tweet mysteriously disappears
#75I’m surprised when I see people uncritically repeating the claim that Twitter now aims for “free speech.” It’s clear that was never true and always meant “Speech Elon wants to allow.”
It was always about the right wing kind of free speech - free to harass and insult people, freedom from consequences.
> It was always about the right wing kind of free speech
It was always about the kind of speech that was being banned. Movement Democrats like to think of themselves as left-wing, so everything that opposes their party becomes right-wing, including people to the left of them. Movement Democrats weren't being banned for spreading misinformation, they were being encouraged.
> free to harass and insult people, freedom from consequences.
There were only consequences on one side with old twitter.
Re: Community Note correcting Musk’s anti-vax tweet mysteriously disappears
#76To be fair, that twitter context post is almost entirely useless. Comparing the risk of myocarditis from vaccines to the risk of myocarditis from actually getting covid is not a helpful comparison. Generally speaking, everyone is going to get covid whether you are vaxxed or unvaxxed. So the question is whether adding vaccines into the mix REDUCES the overall myocarditis risk or increases it. In other words (Covid inf…
Many if not most studies don’t clearly demarcate pre-omicron covid vs omicron. I’d love to know what the science is on myocarditis risk from just omicron is.
There have been numerous studies showing that omicron severity is very likely equivalent to prior strains.
The decrease in serious illness is due to prior immunity and vaccination.
Though it’s obviously a hard thing to prove either way. But certainly I do not think it should be assumed that omicron is inherently more mild.
Re: Community Note correcting Musk’s anti-vax tweet mysteriously disappears
#77Huh?
What is "anti-vaxx" about that tweet? It is absolutely mundane and trivially true.
And just for reference: I myself am triple vaccinated (waited a bit too long for my 4th booster and then got it, damn), and a total vaccine enthusiast. As in the vaccines are amazing, both in general and in particularly the COVID vaccines.
For further reference, last I checked the German health authorities still only recommend COVID vaccination for children with pre-existing conditions, pretty much due to the risk/reward tradeoff.
(I personally would be more in favour than they).
And the community note didn't really make sense, as what he said was not about relative frequencies, but about the question of whether myocarditis is a common side effect or not...and even on that he didn't give an opinion.
Re: Community Note correcting Musk’s anti-vax tweet mysteriously disappears
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was always about the right wing kind of free speech - free to harass and insult people, freedom from consequences.
Don't forget -- freedom from having to hear left-wing ideologies or about anything uncomfortable.
On what planet were liberal voices being censored in any way on twitter? Left-wingers were being banned because the liberals that filled their responses with invective, invitations for them to kill themselves, and appeals that they be arrested were mass reporting them.
Re: Community Note correcting Musk’s anti-vax tweet mysteriously disappears
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
> ...being vaccinated made no difference as to whether you were "endangering people" Those parroting this point forget to mention that hospitals across the country were collapsing because of COVID-19 patient admissions.
But if you can give people the virus whether vaccinated or not, there is functionally no difference in how much you were endangering people. How does hospitals collapsing change that?
> But if you can give people the virus whether vaccinated or not, there is functionally no difference in how much you were endangering people
You are now suggesting that vaccines did not prevent severe illness, which is not true.
Re: Community Note correcting Musk’s anti-vax tweet mysteriously disappears
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was always about the right wing kind of free speech - free to harass and insult people, freedom from consequences.
Right because that's objectionable speech. You don't need to worry about non-objectionable speech because no one would care to censor it. I don't know what you mean by freedom on consequences. I guess a consequence of speech could be to get your account banned? If anything Twitter leaving up your objectionable content would result in more likely conferences of being fired or something.
> Right because that's objectionable speech.
Objectionable to whom? Elon seems to have no issue blocking speech objectionable to pseudo-dictators[1] or declaring that cis/cisgendered are slurs that can get you suspended. He seems fine with blocking speech objectionable to those that agree with his political sensibilities.
[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/05/13/turkey-...