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Interesting. Funny how wrong the Community Note was. Obviously vaccine × virus aren't an xor . Many people have already had the virus by the time they were forced to take the vaccine. For those people the myocarditis risk was a strict net negative.

Who was forced to get vaccinated in which country?

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Interesting. Funny how wrong the Community Note was. Obviously vaccine × virus aren't an xor . Many people have already had the virus by the time they were forced to take the vaccine. For those people the myocarditis risk was a strict net negative.

On the other hand, Musk’s tweet was about whether myocarditis risk was “common” which it isn’t even for previously infected individuals who receives the vaccine whether it was voluntary or “forced”.

Moreover previously infected individuals did receive additional future immunity and protection against severe disease and death from vaccine shots so receiving the shot was not “strictly a net negative” regardless.

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I’m surprised when I see people uncritically repeating the claim that Twitter now aims for “free speech.” It’s clear that was never true and always meant “Speech Elon wants to allow.”

It was always about the right wing kind of free speech - free to harass and insult people, freedom from consequences.

Don't forget -- freedom from having to hear left-wing ideologies or about anything uncomfortable.

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Who was forced to get vaccinated in which country?

People who wanted to keep their job, friends and family. It's disgusting.

By that metric, most of the people I know are being forced to wipe their asses and wash their hands as well. Where will the tyranny stop!?

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I’m surprised when I see people uncritically repeating the claim that Twitter now aims for “free speech.” It’s clear that was never true and always meant “Speech Elon wants to allow.”

Experience has shown that people who scream 'free speech' just mean 'my free speech only'. Doesn't matter whether it's left or right, rich or poor, educated or uneducated, When the 'liberals' were trying to push their agenda, they screamed 'free speech'. Once they succeeded, they pushed censorship everywhere. Elon was screaming 'free speech' at twitter. Once he got control, did he allow free speech? Of course not. He just introduced his version of censorship. Hypocrisy is part of human nature.

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[citation needed]

Lol. Have you been in a news blackout for the last year? Denying it at this point is equivalent to being a flat earther or something.

Read the Twitter Files from Tabibi, Weiss, Shellenberger etc. The evidence is all there.

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Musk always maintains something until he steps on his ego. Remember when twitter was supposed to be a "free speech" platform? Musk has lost all benefit of the doubt, and then some.

Okay, but this is still an implied accusation with zero evidence. Surely losing the "benefit of the doubt" doesn't mean you can just make up any story you want about someone and use that to demonize them until there's definitive proof your accusation is wrong?

Life is not just this or that. Life is also highly likely this or likely that. When you have a track record and make a lot of people have this image about you, many people will operate on highly likely’s or likely’s about you. Musk is no exception.

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Define forced. Federal employees and federal contractors were required to be vaccinated or lose their jobs and this was also repeated in several US states. Military members were also forced to vaccinate or face other than honorable discharge or NJP at a minimum. Yes, nobody came with a gun and "forced" them to take it, but significant economic coercision meets my definition of force.

> ... significant economic coercision meets my definition of force Military members are vaccinated against a myriad of illnesses right after joining . They are also required to follow a bunch of rules, some of which severely restrict the practice of their first amendment rights. They weren't "forced", as much as they have to agree with the DoD rules to work for them.

We should at least acknowledge the "trolley" problem here. You have two bad choices: join the marines or live in poverty. The US has a "volunteer" force but "volunteer" is a stretched euphemism in my mind. There aren't many people with options "volunteering" for the marines.

Obligatory "I'm pro vaccine".

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