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Post by dimal »

hmillison wrote: post #75
zer8k wrote: post #28

> on HN The most important subtext. There are engineer friends of mine laid off from remote companies that, almost 5 months later, cannot get work. These aren't braindead seatwarmers either. The software engineer market has shifted under our feet DRAMATICALLY. Any software engineer with a position should try to keep it for as long as they possible can.

I support remote work, but moving out to a rural area is putting yourself at risk if you expect to get high software engineer pay. There’s a lot more competition for remote jobs and you’re also competing with highly qualified candidates in lower cost of living places outside the US.

Flipside: Staying in an expensive metro area puts you at risk to maintain your quality of life and pay mortgage/taxes/insurance on everything, when a lot of hybrid jobs don't pay enough to cover those expenses, and are also at risk of layoffs, which can be catastrophic when you have a high cost of living. If you're remote/rural, you don't need to make nearly as much just to skate by if something goes south. I moved out of the Bay Area, and I cannot imagine ever going back. Too much risk. I don't care if the pool of jobs is smaller and the pay is lower.

Re: Remote work on HN: Who is hiring? – 69% jobs in 2023 are remote

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Post by operatingthetan »

bluefishinit wrote: post #257
Aurornis wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How were they measuring productivity per employee? Productivity was ultimately measured by talking to the people and asking what they've been working on, what the challenges were, and why it was taking so long. When we'd talk to some of these people, they could barely come up with a story for what they had been doing all week. The metrics were used as an indicator of where to investigate, not as an ultimate measure…

"Story points" are exactly the kind of theater that is enabled when working in-person. Every in-person office I've worked at has been addicted to planning and estimating, because being in a meeting looks like work and is less stressful than pretending to work at your desk. It's an environment not conducive to actually shipping things that impact business success. Was your profit negatively impacted? Because if it was…

>because being in a meeting looks like work and is less stressful than pretending to work at your desk

Right, and who knows if their metrics were actually measuring meaningful work? If they are measuring in-office rituals like this that changed during the remote transition but they ultimately didn't lead to more tangible work being completed, then their metrics are worthless.

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Post by RestlessMind »

baristaGeek wrote: post #196
cj wrote: post #152

Side note to the remote founders/employers out there: Have you been plagued by applicant fraud? We've found for all of our remote engineering roles, we get 100's of amazing applicants who are all fake (clearly not actually in the US) once you get them on a screening call. They're often reading from a script, broken english, and say strange things like they're born and raised in Texas, yet can't speak fluent English o…

Accent aside (if they can't be understood at all they're obviously not qualified): What's the difference between a foreigner with an accent in your onsite team VS a foreigner that's remote in US timezones (LatAm)? Why just open the job for US-remote? Compliance? Deel/Remote can help you with that. Security? It applies if you're working on defense software, but other than that...?

Some more roadblocks:

- IP protection - some countries make it super hard if someone breaks the NDA and steals their employer's IP. At least in the US, the employer can go after the IP thieves as a last recourse.

- Secure devices - lot of companies give laptops which come with all sorts of tracking software (eg. to force security updates). It is hard to ship laptops all over the world due to customs requirements.

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Post by marcosdumay »

dekervin wrote: post #19
thejosh wrote: post #14

Also, I would post to HN only when hiring remotely, because it's a great source to find remote workers? A better analysis would be job boards in general?

But the relative variation might still carry some information , right ?

The variation on the absolute number of remote jobs carry some information, that is hard to link to any cause but is there.

The variation on the ratio of remote to on-site jobs carry much less information and is still harder to link to a cause.

Re: Remote work on HN: Who is hiring? – 69% jobs in 2023 are remote

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Post by DamnInteresting »

vvpan wrote: post #121
zer8k wrote: post #28

> on HN The most important subtext. There are engineer friends of mine laid off from remote companies that, almost 5 months later, cannot get work. These aren't braindead seatwarmers either. The software engineer market has shifted under our feet DRAMATICALLY. Any software engineer with a position should try to keep it for as long as they possible can.

Yeah, this is all anecdotal, but I'll add my 2c - been in the business for something like 15 years and was looking for work in May. It has never felt deader, remote or onsite. Usually recruiters are beating down your door. This time not even friends could get me any interviews. The way I got a job was by writing some technical articles and establishing a relationship with a very energetic VC person. I asked him if he…

I've been in the business for almost 20 years. I've been hired for positions where I don't even code in the required language, and the employer depends on me to learn it on the go. Until recently I've never had trouble securing a job. But I've been on the market now for about 2 years. I often can't even score an interview, even for jobs that exactly match my qualifications.

I'm over 40, so I must assume ageism is a factor, but even in light of that, this tech job market feels like a desert.

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Post by BMZU2 »

jmuguy wrote: post #278
throitallaway wrote: post #274

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I don't know about residency, but we get tons of applicants that know nothing about what's on their resume. If you get them into an interview they try to talk around your questions in generalities. There are also a few "job parking" companies that we've identified. I'm convinced that these companies aren't real (their websites are generic fluff and the applicants that we've talked to don't know anything.) If anyone h…

Can you link to an example of one of these companies. We're getting ready to start hiring again and I'm kind of worried about this.

Hello i am Marc BOKO, i am from benin and i am backend developer. I am proficient with Laravel.please how to work with us ?

Re: Remote work on HN: Who is hiring? – 69% jobs in 2023 are remote

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Post by sleepychu »

mr_tristan wrote: post #313
sleepychu wrote: post #222

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My team values writing . We killed our meetings for 2 weeks to see which ones were too painful to live without and retros are the only ones we took back. We've shifted our work discussions almost entirely to async threads on our ticketing system, we frequently hand tickets over between timezones and our manager types can find out what's going on to the nearest couple of hours in a few minutes any time they like. If w…

That sounds about ideal to me. Any tricks or issues you've had to figure out while pairing? My thought was just "assign a couple of people to a non-trivial ticket and see what happens". But I'm curious if that's really naive.

Biggest trick is taking breaks, it is so easy to push past when you'd really have liked to stop for lunch because you think you're almost there or skip your usual break for a coffee. Set timers if you need to. I tend to rely on my partners to remember to ask for breaks or suggest breaks when they seem distracted or like they are flagging.

We update assignees to reflect when more than one person is working on something but we never assign work to individuals or pairs. We use an aggressive WIP limit of engineers/2+1 to prevent a ton of in flight tickets but other than that we're quite free to move around as long as we're moving the stuff on the board right-wards.

I think that's a thing that contributes to our success at pairing actually. Since we all value schedule flexibility quite highly we get on well with pairing a bit when we happen to have synchronized working time and working on independent subtasks when that is more convenient for us.

https://tuple.app/ - this tooling helped a ton, it's expensive but worth it to reduce the friction to start a pairing call to 0. Pairing on zoom, slack, meets, etc. is all much more painful. VS Code LiveShare esque things are free and can probably work as well with some discipline.

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Post by vvpan »

DamnInteresting wrote: post #335
vvpan wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, this is all anecdotal, but I'll add my 2c - been in the business for something like 15 years and was looking for work in May. It has never felt deader, remote or onsite. Usually recruiters are beating down your door. This time not even friends could get me any interviews. The way I got a job was by writing some technical articles and establishing a relationship with a very energetic VC person. I asked him if he…

I've been in the business for almost 20 years. I've been hired for positions where I don't even code in the required language, and the employer depends on me to learn it on the go. Until recently I've never had trouble securing a job. But I've been on the market now for about 2 years. I often can't even score an interview, even for jobs that exactly match my qualifications. I'm over 40, so I must assume ageism is a f…

I was about to consider an interview coach or just somebody to look at who I am, my resume, online presence and all that and give me very honest feedback. I thought that what I am lacking is a good idea of who I am and I how I present myself. Have you tried anything like that?

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Post by Name_Chawps »

silisili wrote: post #301
welfare wrote: post #259

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Is it the French again?

It's the Canadians. They almost get through til they accidentally drop the 'eh.'

For me, it's the way I say "house". I watched the show House three times all the way through before I realized I say it differently than they say it in the show.

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Post by RestlessMind »

dimal wrote: post #331
hmillison wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I support remote work, but moving out to a rural area is putting yourself at risk if you expect to get high software engineer pay. There’s a lot more competition for remote jobs and you’re also competing with highly qualified candidates in lower cost of living places outside the US.

Flipside: Staying in an expensive metro area puts you at risk to maintain your quality of life and pay mortgage/taxes/insurance on everything, when a lot of hybrid jobs don't pay enough to cover those expenses, and are also at risk of layoffs, which can be catastrophic when you have a high cost of living. If you're remote/rural, you don't need to make nearly as much just to skate by if something goes south. I moved o…

When it comes to your quality of life, there are a lot of factors besides the cost of living - social circle, weather, job opportunities, hobbies, cultural compatibility etc. For a lot of people, expensive metro areas can also be the only places where they have friends & family or where they can pursue their hobbies. As an immigrant of color, I simply cannot see myself living happily in rural Ohio even if that could be a wonderful place for someone else.
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