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Post by yCombLinks »

mostlysimilar wrote: post #52
zer8k wrote: post #28

> on HN The most important subtext. There are engineer friends of mine laid off from remote companies that, almost 5 months later, cannot get work. These aren't braindead seatwarmers either. The software engineer market has shifted under our feet DRAMATICALLY. Any software engineer with a position should try to keep it for as long as they possible can.

Without data this is just fearmongering.

What are you talking about without data? We know most of the big tech companies laid off tens of thousands of software engineers in the past year. The biggest market players went from net positive on jobs to net negative.

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Post by sleepychu »

mr_tristan wrote: post #72
ryneandal wrote: post #5

I've been working remotely for nearly seven years now. I've been able to enjoy all of the typical "firsts" for my youngest two, saved immense amounts of time with no commute, and have been able to pitch in more regarding domestic tasks. I understand and empathize with those that value face-to-face conversations in the office, but for those that don't, remote work is an incredible boon.

I'm in a similar boat, working remotely since 2017. I don't even have kids, and just enjoy my local parks with my dogs, my wife, etc. My social interaction tends to not involve work, which I actually think is healthy, and gets me away from the echo chambers I've experienced in major tech hubs. My biggest wish, or obstacle, is finding a team that truly values writing. So many times I've sat in meetings where the discu…

My team values writing . We killed our meetings for 2 weeks to see which ones were too painful to live without and retros are the only ones we took back.

We've shifted our work discussions almost entirely to async threads on our ticketing system, we frequently hand tickets over between timezones and our manager types can find out what's going on to the nearest couple of hours in a few minutes any time they like. If we need sync conversations (which does happen of course) we record the outcome for async consumption.

We do frequent pairing, it can be quite pleasant to spend quite a while on the phone doing work when you don't need to sit in 15 hours of meetings a week!

Honestly I'm not sure I could go back. Standups for sure would be a huge turnoff for me at any new job.

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Post by peoplearepeople »

vvpan wrote: post #121
zer8k wrote: post #28

> on HN The most important subtext. There are engineer friends of mine laid off from remote companies that, almost 5 months later, cannot get work. These aren't braindead seatwarmers either. The software engineer market has shifted under our feet DRAMATICALLY. Any software engineer with a position should try to keep it for as long as they possible can.

Yeah, this is all anecdotal, but I'll add my 2c - been in the business for something like 15 years and was looking for work in May. It has never felt deader, remote or onsite. Usually recruiters are beating down your door. This time not even friends could get me any interviews. The way I got a job was by writing some technical articles and establishing a relationship with a very energetic VC person. I asked him if he…

anecdote: I've found the last few weeks that recruiters are really picking up steam with the cold messaging again

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Post by samstave »

ravenstine wrote: post #85
ryneandal wrote: post #5

I've been working remotely for nearly seven years now. I've been able to enjoy all of the typical "firsts" for my youngest two, saved immense amounts of time with no commute, and have been able to pitch in more regarding domestic tasks. I understand and empathize with those that value face-to-face conversations in the office, but for those that don't, remote work is an incredible boon.

There's arguments from both sides of the coin but, though I'm biased having worked remote for almost 5 years now, I think the remote-side usually wins the argument by simply being more reasonable. I see far fewer remote workers claiming that "everyone should work remote" and more in-office workers making sweeping claims that remote reduces creativity, reduces, productivity, or makes people lazy. The anti-remote folks…

You know what might make an incredible industry "remote Work Pods"

Recall all the "phone-closets" we installed in many large corp tech environs (I wasa designer on many large scale offices (FB, Goog, Salesforce, NAMCO, Lucas - to name a few - aside from hospitals, I have millions of SqFt under my belt)...

If a company wanted to focus a remote workforce, while reducing realEstate facilities costs, maybe a deliverable cubicle (returnable cubicle) - that was a sound box with all the tech req'd for job, might be a thing - think of it like the "ON AIR" red-light sign... (IF PERSON IS IN THIS CUBE, THEY ARE FOCUSED ON WORKING - DO NOT TOUCH, FEED, OR OTHERWISE ENGAGE WITH SAID PERSON IN THIS BOX)

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Post by esafak »

acuozzo wrote: post #161
bilsbie wrote: post #45

I prefer in office but I don’t see how that’s possible with a family. How would you afford a large enough house in a city center? And otherwise how do you justify two hours of your day to commuting? It just seems like an extreme quality of life hit to be able to work in an office. Am I missing something?

> I prefer in office but I don’t see how that’s possible with a family. I don't see how WFH is possible with a family. My children (9, 6, and 4) spend nearly the whole day trying to guilt me into playing with them when I telework. > How would you afford a large enough house in a city center? Work in an industry which exists largely outside of the cities. Defense, for instance. > And otherwise how do you justify two h…

> My children (9, 6, and 4) spend nearly the whole day...

Are they home schooled? Most schools are contemporaneous with working hours to prevent this very problem.

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Post by [deleted] »

michaelbuckbee wrote: post #203
baristaGeek wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Accent aside (if they can't be understood at all they're obviously not qualified): What's the difference between a foreigner with an accent in your onsite team VS a foreigner that's remote in US timezones (LatAm)? Why just open the job for US-remote? Compliance? Deel/Remote can help you with that. Security? It applies if you're working on defense software, but other than that...?

If you can imagine the difference between hiring one single developer to work on your application vs. hiring dozens of different developers each to handle some small part of it...and it's still worse than that. Typically the person "hired" is the senior and the person doing the work is _extremely_ green.

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Post by probablynish »

robswc wrote: post #70

It's weird. I feel like you can get more done at an office at times... but then there's also a lot of downtime. Also the commute is always killer. I honestly believe people work better when they get dressed and have some routine. No idea how people can work in their PJs, I'd feel so lazy, lol. However. The commute is killer. Even if you get it down to just 15 min. (which is hard unless you live right next to work) th…

I think there's a big difference between a walking commute and a driving commute. I'd welcome a 15 minute walking commute each day - even while WFH I like to take a 15 minute walk up and down my road before starting my day because it helps my brain and body wake up.

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Post by Aurornis »

cj wrote: post #152

Side note to the remote founders/employers out there: Have you been plagued by applicant fraud? We've found for all of our remote engineering roles, we get 100's of amazing applicants who are all fake (clearly not actually in the US) once you get them on a screening call. They're often reading from a script, broken english, and say strange things like they're born and raised in Texas, yet can't speak fluent English o…

Yes! We catch them in the screening stage, but it's scarily common. I thought we were being targeted at first until I talked to other people with the same problem.

I've also heard of situations where one person is hired to do the job, but then after a while their work changes for the worse. They start "forgetting" things you've talked about recently, or they'll "forget" how the code they submitted an hour ago works.

They're either a front person for a dev shop, or they're trying to outsource their work. They don't care about doing a great job because they know most companies will take a long time to fire people. If the company PIPs them, they might suddenly become a great performer again until the heat dies down, then it's back to the same game.

Before the "if they're getting their work done, why does it matter?" comments: Having someone take our codebase and send it to random contractors is a huge security breach. Even ignoring that, these people aren't selecting world-class developers to outsource their work. They're outsourcing as cheaply as possible so they can pay as little as possible. It's never an okay deal for the company.

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Post by [deleted] »

michaelbuckbee wrote: post #203
baristaGeek wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Accent aside (if they can't be understood at all they're obviously not qualified): What's the difference between a foreigner with an accent in your onsite team VS a foreigner that's remote in US timezones (LatAm)? Why just open the job for US-remote? Compliance? Deel/Remote can help you with that. Security? It applies if you're working on defense software, but other than that...?

If you can imagine the difference between hiring one single developer to work on your application vs. hiring dozens of different developers each to handle some small part of it...and it's still worse than that. Typically the person "hired" is the senior and the person doing the work is _extremely_ green.

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