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Post by no_wizard »

bart_spoon wrote: post #179
burlesona wrote: post #162

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That's very interesting. My experience has been the opposite, that people who are pro-remote are intense about it, that they often deny there being any benefits to working in an office and get angry and dismissive toward anyone who says they want to work in-person. I would argue that the reason "remote wins" is that to get the full benefit of working in person you really need 100% of your team to work in the same bui…

> That's very interesting. My experience has been the opposite, that people who are pro-remote are intense about it, that they often deny there being any benefits to working in an office and get angry and dismissive toward anyone who says they want to work in-person. There is a difference between arguing that remote work is better and insisting everyone work remotely. I've seen lots of people say remote work should b…

At a minimum, it should be illegal for companies to say you can work from home! and then back track. Employees that already WFH full time should at least be able to do so without RTO considerations.

Honestly, I'm not one for laws about these sorts of things, but given the state of climate change, there should be legal requirements that if a job can be done in a WFH setting, it should be an option for employees to choose. By quantifying what roles don't require in person by defining eligibility, as opposed to allowing businesses to set the eligibility.

I think the details could be worked out reasonably.

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Post by warning26 »

ryanSrich wrote: post #160
Aurornis wrote: post #94

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> Turns out to my surprise I like going into the office, but definitely not every day. You're not alone. The internet likes to talk about remote work as the only acceptable arrangement, but that's mostly because it's biased toward people who like socializing via internet comment sections. The number of people who actually like going to the office (either part or full time) is far higher than you'd expect from reading…

> The number of people who actually like going to the office (either part or full time) is far higher than you'd expect from reading Reddit and Hacker News. I think most people like an office setting. Even remote work proponents like myself enjoy the office every now and then. The problem is really two things. 1.) The commute is brutal. If you live in any decent sized city and have a family, it's likely that you are…

> 1.) The commute is brutal. If you live in any decent sized city and have a family, it's likely that you are far enough away from the office that you have to drive 30+ minutes in pretty horrendous traffic.

This is fundamentally a problem with urban design, not with in-office work.

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Post by eldaisfish »

zactato wrote: post #271

I don't understand the smugness of Software Engineers' belief that pure remote is the only option. It seems short-sighted. If everything is remote then companies don't care where they hire from. Whats the difference between you and an engineer from South America? Maybe you're a better engineer and maybe you are a better communicator in English. How much better? When do the scales tip? Why hire an engineer for over 20…

this is a tired argument and is easily dismissed - quality and local info. As you stack requirements, your chances of finding someone outside the country drop dramatically. Does your person in Peru have experience with US labour law? US Taxes? You see where this is going.

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Post by robswc »

roflyear wrote: post #256
robswc wrote: post #70

It's weird. I feel like you can get more done at an office at times... but then there's also a lot of downtime. Also the commute is always killer. I honestly believe people work better when they get dressed and have some routine. No idea how people can work in their PJs, I'd feel so lazy, lol. However. The commute is killer. Even if you get it down to just 15 min. (which is hard unless you live right next to work) th…

I never got more done in the office. Maybe felt that way, but never realized it.

I think it comes down to the person and their discipline.

Ultimately, I do get more coding done at home. However, being surrounded by colleges and a "business" atmosphere motivates me to actually do the coding, its hard to explain lol.

Also distractions. If you get distracted at home it can get pretty bad. At work you at least have to try.

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Post by dimitrios1 »

biomcgary wrote: post #198
JambalayaJim wrote: post #131

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This is a fundamental misunderstanding of what the return-to-office crowd, like myself, wants. Work relationships and personal relationships serve entirely different purposes for me. I don't want to be working longer hours, or make work a larger part of my life. I don't particularly care if I have "real" friendships with my colleagues outside of work. I have plenty of friends and family that I already have trouble ju…

Are we in a transition period where the previous methods of developing camaraderie, etc simply have not been widely learned? I've worked remotely for 7 years and haven't missed anything you've listed as a benefit of in-person work. In fact, compared to prior in-person experiences, I have more personal interaction with colleagues than before (largely because my startup is quite conscious about it).

Agreed. I am very close with my remote teammates, and when we meet for our yearly onsite, it feels like we've all been working side by side in the trenches...just like in an office.

We also miss the fact that you can be traveling to an office for years and not actually know anybody. This is especially true of this big large tech campuses.

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Post by robswc »

acuozzo wrote: post #175
robswc wrote: post #158

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That's fair, honestly gives you an advantage that you enjoy it. For me, anytime I'm commuting I feel is time I could be doing almost literally _anything_ else. My secret to getting away (its not forced though, lol) is a mini sauna. I don't really sit in there sometimes but if I say I'm going to it's everyone's clue to leave me alone haha.

> That's fair, honestly gives you an advantage that you enjoy it. I probably wouldn't if it were any longer, TBH. 30 minutes one-way is more-or-less my limit. It's also terrible for the environment. IDK, I have mixed feelings about the whole thing, but I do know that I need it to reset my brain before work. > My secret to getting away (its not forced though, lol) is a mini sauna. That's awesome! How mini are we talki…

>How mini are we talking? I've seen some tiny ones!

Size of a bucket haha. It just does steam. There's also an option to have a tent-like thing you sit in but I find it works better if I just pipe it into the shower and I can get a plastic chair and an ipad and just relax.

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Post by freeplay »

peoplearepeople wrote: post #223
vvpan wrote: post #121

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Yeah, this is all anecdotal, but I'll add my 2c - been in the business for something like 15 years and was looking for work in May. It has never felt deader, remote or onsite. Usually recruiters are beating down your door. This time not even friends could get me any interviews. The way I got a job was by writing some technical articles and establishing a relationship with a very energetic VC person. I asked him if he…

anecdote: I've found the last few weeks that recruiters are really picking up steam with the cold messaging again

Same. Although, I have also noticed there is nothing 100% remote. Many of the messages even highlight "100% on-site." Best I've seen recently is a 3 day hybrid.

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Post by biohax2015 »

eldaisfish wrote: post #283
zactato wrote: post #271

I don't understand the smugness of Software Engineers' belief that pure remote is the only option. It seems short-sighted. If everything is remote then companies don't care where they hire from. Whats the difference between you and an engineer from South America? Maybe you're a better engineer and maybe you are a better communicator in English. How much better? When do the scales tip? Why hire an engineer for over 20…

this is a tired argument and is easily dismissed - quality and local info. As you stack requirements, your chances of finding someone outside the country drop dramatically. Does your person in Peru have experience with US labour law? US Taxes? You see where this is going.

> Does your person in Peru have experience with US labour law? US Taxes?

Why would, say, a Ruby developer need to know any of these things? I don't think most US developers are familiar with them, other than during tax season.

Ironically it's technology that's shortening the gaps between offshore / onshore resources.

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Post by myth2018 »

Aurornis wrote: post #235
baristaGeek wrote: post #196

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Accent aside (if they can't be understood at all they're obviously not qualified): What's the difference between a foreigner with an accent in your onsite team VS a foreigner that's remote in US timezones (LatAm)? Why just open the job for US-remote? Compliance? Deel/Remote can help you with that. Security? It applies if you're working on defense software, but other than that...?

> What's the difference between a foreigner with an accent in your onsite team VS a foreigner that's remote in US timezones (LatAm)? If I give someone in the US access to my code, systems, and, inevitably, customer data then I have a lot of legal recourse against that person if they do something bad. They have a lot of incentive to be careful and follow the rules. Their desire to maintain their reputation and avoid l…

Hi. Question: I'm an engineer living outside the US. If I were to establish a consultancy company in the US and offer my services through it, would that fulfill the legal and security concerns?

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Post by tomtheelder »

yCombLinks wrote: post #260
1270018080 wrote: post #154

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Which is why we need a union, despite what libertarians think they are above.

Lots of libertarians support unions, not sure where you get your info. The libertarian argument has the most subtlety about how and why to support or oppose certain unions. So yes, they do oppose some unions.

Anyone sane should oppose _some_ unions. They don’t all make sense/provide positive value. Looking at you, public sector unions.
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