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Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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> I don't think anyone is saying he should be in jail because he's saying misogynistic stuff. For what it's worth, I do. The shit he and others of his ilk teach to young, vulnerable men is inspiring a lot of real-world violations of women, some even get drawn to outright terrorism and murder. In Germany, we call such persons "geistige Brandstifter" for a reason. They may not light a fire on their own - in general the…

That is how fascism started, increasing the verbal threat, a string of political assassinations and subsequently not giving a f* because your hands are clean, but shouldn't ideas be challenged not suppressed? If people cannot be trusted and should rather be cocooned from the true range of human thought, doesn't this go against every assumption we use to justify our freedoms?

> If people cannot be trusted and should rather be cocooned from the true range of human thought, doesn't this go against every assumption we use to justify our freedoms?

Well, we've seen in 1933-1945 where that sort of orthodox interpretations of "free speech" leads. And we've seen in the Covid era that some people are able to politicize wearing masks... or to put it differently: the intersection between the dumbest humans and the smartest bears and crows is so large that we cannot design actually bear/crow proof trash cans because enough people wouldn't be able to open them.

With politics it is just the same: there are more than enough dumb fucks on this planet that someone like Donald Trump was able to lead them to storm Congress, leading to multiple people getting killed, and more severely injured. Society needs some sort of defense mechanism against those ruthless enough to use moronically dumb people as a weapon and, like Trump did, discard them aside when they outlived their usefulness. People got sentenced to many years worth of prison time for following Trump's suggestion - and yet, to my knowledge, he didn't pay a single one's legal bills, assist their families or grant a pardon. Even the goddamn mafia takes better care for those actually risking prison time and their families!

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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> wouldn’t have any problem handing over her texts This is the same non-reason as is being brought up with cameras filming you 24/7 etc. 'You dont have to worry if you have nothing to hide' ... It's an invasion of privacy, and it is worth fighting against that.

> It's an invasion of privacy, and it is worth fighting against that VdL should have a private phone and a work phone, just like everyone else. If these work messages are from her work phone, she should hand them over. If they are work messages on her private phone, she should also hand them over. She simply cannot claim to have been having non-work conversations with anyone at Pfizer.

I have non-work conversations with staff and coworkers at work all the time, and also work related conversations on private channels from time to time. The world is not as black-and-white as you think it is.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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> Running a tor node is a thankless thing one can choose to do. Nevertheless I did for years. I don't do it anymore. It's hard to determine tor's net-value to society, since it's such a double bladed sword. I'm not sure it's something deserving of thanks.

I'm a Tor user. It's also hard to determine because so much of the web is read-only or downright inaccessible via Tor. Most big sites use a chain of reputation like this: 1. To have an account on our site, you need a reputable email. Mailinator doesn't count. 2. To get a reputable email (GMail, Outlook, etc.) you need to sacrifice a phone number to receive texts to prove you aren't a bot. 3. There are no free VoIP se…

> The gratis web is fading to nothing. Everyone wants something. None of it is truly free. The fediverse instances will run as long as they get donations, but charities are subject to a tragedy of the commons. They will eventually close up registrations if enough humans join for the parasite bots to follow them.

You blame "everyone wants something" but it's more clear in your last sentence: abuse by unverified users.

Lots of folks will provide services for free (actually free, no data collection etc.) but very few folks have the disposable income to _pay_ for someone to handle abuse.

So folks who provide popular services long-term have to find some way to pay for it. OMG, imagine that.

With the caveat that cryptocurrencies are usually rubbish, cryptocurrencies have allowed folks to anonymously pay for anonymous access to services. This won't work for most mainstream services (in large part because of government opposition), but it's an option. At some point which I hope to live to see, we'll go back to the old days of anonymously paying for anonymous access. (Cash was awesome.)

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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CP is disgusting and everything, but I'm kinda weirded out about thought crime. If no harm is being done, not even indirectly to anyone else, why is it a crime? It's not illegal to write a fanfic that you keep to yourself about all the weird ways that you want to torture and kill someone.

The issue has become so emotionalized that if you say anything that even remotely looks like supporting pedophilia, people will tell you to go kill yourself.

It seems there's nothing worse than a moderate these days. One extreme thinks I must be a Satanist for not believing in the massive conspiracy to harvest adrenochrome from tortured children, while the other extreme thinks I must be a Nazi for not believing in a trans genocide.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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I wrote "he and others of his ilk". Just read the Wikipedia article on Incels for a list of violent incidents [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel#Mass_murders_and_violenc...

Tate is an incel? "a member of an online community of young men who consider themselves unable to attract women sexually" I think Tate is going to be super surprised to learn that. Dude is many things, an incel is not one of them. Perhaps you have been caught up in the hysteria and are attributing things to him that he is not responsible for? I'm not a Tate fan and think he is probably not a good person but there has…

Oh he's not an Incel by any means, but he's regarded as the ultimate role model, the person to become, by a hell of a lot of them. And that is the true danger behind Tate: there are a lot of people able and willing to commit an awful lot of criminal or offensive things just to get to the point he is.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Even Lolita from Nabokov? Because that book depicted that as joking about the reader and on male society in general, as there was no actual erotism on anything but the narrator's "mind"/protagonist. Similar on how people got Starship Troopers wrong. Is not about cheering fascism, but to ridicule it.

> Similar on how people got Starship Troopers wrong. Is not about cheering fascism, but to ridicule it. Well - the film also had a disconnect with the book on the topic of fascism. The book was more on the pro-fascism side.

The film intentionally satirized the book.

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>back then it wasn’t clear that we’d ever be able to have maps at our fingertips regardless of internet access. This was back in the era of that poor CNET reporter that got lost with his family in the mountains precisely because of no maps That was 2007. I had maps of the entire US loaded on my pocket pc circa 2005. Edit: that was “Mapopolis” in my case. There were plenty more: https://wiki.geocaching.com.au/wiki/GPS…

i traveled across europe in car at same time frame with pocket pc (asus mypal) and igo maps loaded on it (still have it in my drawer). those days you can get igo offline maps on android. also sygic. it was always strange that google maps was accepted as some kind of magic while turn by turn navigation with voice directions was available from mid 2000s nowdays i always have sygic installed on my phone. came handy when…

> turn by turn navigation with voice directions was available from mid 2000s

Did those turn by turn systems allow you to just drag the map onscreen anywhere to change location to anyplace on earth? To drop pins and send links to anyone in an email? To be updated instantly and for free when the data was refreshed?

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Wow, the website of his hosting company[1] is, eh, extremly honest: > Further, as Kosovo is an extremely corrupt country, we are able to bribe both executive and judicative as well as getting information about court orders and raids before execution, enabling us to move servers out of the affected location, protecting our clients in any situation. Our excellent Serbian connections enable us to also move servers cross…

Wouldn't full disclosure make them, in some sense, honest ? Also, you have just condemned entire nations of people, like those who lived under Soviet domination, where bribery became custom, because if you wanted to accomplish anything , you had to bribe the people involved. Just got married and want an apartment for your new family? You could submit a housing application, but it might bubble up to the top of the que…

He condemned accurately.

The soviet system sounds pointlessly overloaded with middle men. Why not abandon the "official system with middle men bribes" and descend all the way into mafia families and protection rackets?

No matter the empathy I have for the suffering. What is the point of offering a bribe, to bully the system, in the same way the receiver intends to break the rules?

Just tell the truth and say the system sucks. You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours done en masse, hardens society for everyone and then you have to bribe, like the Soviets did.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Tate is an incel? "a member of an online community of young men who consider themselves unable to attract women sexually" I think Tate is going to be super surprised to learn that. Dude is many things, an incel is not one of them. Perhaps you have been caught up in the hysteria and are attributing things to him that he is not responsible for? I'm not a Tate fan and think he is probably not a good person but there has…

Oh he's not an Incel by any means, but he's regarded as the ultimate role model, the person to become, by a hell of a lot of them. And that is the true danger behind Tate: there are a lot of people able and willing to commit an awful lot of criminal or offensive things just to get to the point he is.

Would you not prefer that incels, including the list of those you provided that committed violent crimes instead change who they are, gain confidence in themselves, establish a relationship and live a normal life? The list you provided was a group of people that committed "an awful lot of criminal or offensive things" without him. Seems like them gaining some self confidence and accepting responsibility for their own place in the world would be a good thing. Something he advocates for
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