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Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by chrsig »

jaylittle wrote: post #11

I stopped running a Tor non-exit node from home a few years back, because a lot of websites and platforms blacklist any IP associated with Tor. I couldn't actually watch anything on Hulu for years (though they were still happy to take my money, which I refused to give them) because of this. Running a tor node is a thankless thing one can choose to do. Nevertheless I did for years. I don't do it anymore.

> Running a tor node is a thankless thing one can choose to do. Nevertheless I did for years. I don't do it anymore.

It's hard to determine tor's net-value to society, since it's such a double bladed sword. I'm not sure it's something deserving of thanks.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by atmosx »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #47
schroeding wrote: post #8

Wow, the website of his hosting company[1] is, eh, extremly honest: > Further, as Kosovo is an extremely corrupt country, we are able to bribe both executive and judicative as well as getting information about court orders and raids before execution, enabling us to move servers out of the affected location, protecting our clients in any situation. Our excellent Serbian connections enable us to also move servers cross…

> Further, as Kosovo is an extremely corrupt country, we are able to bribe both executive and judicative as well as getting information about court orders and raids before execution. What happens if someone else is willing to pay a higher bribe than you are...?

No more ping-pong...

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by wkat4242 »

sunbum wrote: post #20
peytoncasper wrote: post #13

Why don’t we put Tor nodes in space? Seems like a few hundred micro satellites could circumvent sovereignty this way.

How would they get network? Ground stations would just blacklist them.

Ground stations aren't commodities. You'd need to build your own just like any existing sat network.

I agree it's a pipe dream. Launch costs are too high and nobody will approve this.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by marcinzm »

martin1975 wrote: post #21
npsomaratna wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't a parody, right? I mean, surely no-one would (seriously) say this in public in real life? Right?

It's not. I come from that area. He's telling the truth.

His statement being factual and his statement, admitting to breaking laws in Kosovo, being a rational thing to say publicly are different things.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by lost_tourist »

mikeyouse wrote: post #25
MatekCopatek wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Couldn't you say the same for every coffee shop that gives random people Wi-Fi access?

Your coffee shop could turn over MAC addresses if the police showed up with a warrant - especially all of the 3rd party managed solutions with logging.

What person doing illegal stuff doesn't randomize their MAC address?

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by swores »

monsieurbanana wrote: post #30
DennisP wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm trying to imagine a plausible reason to (a) run a Tor exit node, but also (b) not actually use Tor for online nefariousness, and I'm coming up blank. I don't think running a Tor node as an excuse is a real scenario. (edit: emphasis) Edit2: Jeez guys. I support Tor. I'm saying anyone who runs an exit node is also going to use Tor for anything that might get them in trouble, not do those thing in the clear and "use…

That's not how Tor works, you don't need to run a tor exit to use it. If you were actually doing something nefarious and using tor for anonymity, running an exit from the same ip doesn't sound extremely smart.

You're misunderstanding the comment you're replying to. They're not saying you need an exit node to do bad stuff over Tor, they're saying that anybody with the technical ability and knowledge to run a tor exit mode would also choose to use Tor for any bad stuff, and that therefore it seems unlikely anyone who runs a tor exit node would also do bad stuff directly traceable to their own IP.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by wkat4242 »

pstuart wrote: post #7

It's almost like they don't want us to run exit nodes... This man's plight is exactly the reason I won't.

Yep I'm sure setting an example contributed a lot here.

This decision is not going to stop exit nodes (and the worst stuff on tor probably doesn't even use exit nodes but hidden services) but it keeps Austrian IPs off the map making them seem a country in control.

The same way companies go crazy mitigating ratings on bitsight but don't care about fixing real root problems because they're not visible anywhere.

Keeping your front yard clean is a big thing in IT. In our company our corporate network is not detected by bitsight but our guest wifi is. Meaning one bad apple in a handful of guests can give our entire multinational a bad rating.

So what did they do? Make sure bitsight actually shows our real endpoints and makes an accurate result? Doing some rudimentary checks on the guest portal to make sure outdated systems can't connect? Only allowing VPN access on the guest wifi?

Nope they just turned off the guest wifi so that contractors (who still need to do the work we pay them to do) plug in the corp network against policy, or use the coffee shop wifi next door.

Bitsight rating fixed, problem hidden but not actually solved and in fact worsened by people connecting unmanaged gear to the corp network as guest. All the while gloating in the A rating which is completely meaningless.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by [deleted] »

lb1lf wrote: post #53
skilled wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sounds like you have never been to a country where money can buy anything you want, including freedom. Many such countries in the world.

Well, money will only buy you freedom in such places until you annoy someone with deeper pockets than you have sufficiently so that they want you to wind up behind bars. Corruption is an equal opportunity weapon.

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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by coldtea »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #47
schroeding wrote: post #8

Wow, the website of his hosting company[1] is, eh, extremly honest: > Further, as Kosovo is an extremely corrupt country, we are able to bribe both executive and judicative as well as getting information about court orders and raids before execution, enabling us to move servers out of the affected location, protecting our clients in any situation. Our excellent Serbian connections enable us to also move servers cross…

> Further, as Kosovo is an extremely corrupt country, we are able to bribe both executive and judicative as well as getting information about court orders and raids before execution. What happens if someone else is willing to pay a higher bribe than you are...?

Or if the order comes with strong pressure from the mafia or the government, and it's not ammenable to a bribe-override?
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