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Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by martin1975 »

npsomaratna wrote: post #16
schroeding wrote: post #8

Wow, the website of his hosting company[1] is, eh, extremly honest: > Further, as Kosovo is an extremely corrupt country, we are able to bribe both executive and judicative as well as getting information about court orders and raids before execution, enabling us to move servers out of the affected location, protecting our clients in any situation. Our excellent Serbian connections enable us to also move servers cross…

This isn't a parody, right? I mean, surely no-one would (seriously) say this in public in real life? Right?

It's not. I come from that area. He's telling the truth.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by treyd »

peytoncasper wrote: post #13

Why don’t we put Tor nodes in space? Seems like a few hundred micro satellites could circumvent sovereignty this way.

You still need downlinks with this. You could have some base stations run by amateurs, but that paints a target on their backs in a similar way running a Tor node already does.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by skilled »

npsomaratna wrote: post #16
schroeding wrote: post #8

Wow, the website of his hosting company[1] is, eh, extremly honest: > Further, as Kosovo is an extremely corrupt country, we are able to bribe both executive and judicative as well as getting information about court orders and raids before execution, enabling us to move servers out of the affected location, protecting our clients in any situation. Our excellent Serbian connections enable us to also move servers cross…

This isn't a parody, right? I mean, surely no-one would (seriously) say this in public in real life? Right?

It sounds like you have never been to a country where money can buy anything you want, including freedom. Many such countries in the world.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by mikeyouse »

MatekCopatek wrote: post #14
rvnx wrote: post #6

Quite logical, same in France and likely many countries; if you run a Tor exit node (or any type of open proxy), you get visited by the police if someone does something wrong on your exit node. Otherwise what could happen is that you run a Tor node and use it as an excuse for any crime you do.

Couldn't you say the same for every coffee shop that gives random people Wi-Fi access?

Your coffee shop could turn over MAC addresses if the police showed up with a warrant - especially all of the 3rd party managed solutions with logging.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by charcircuit »

rvnx wrote: post #6

Quite logical, same in France and likely many countries; if you run a Tor exit node (or any type of open proxy), you get visited by the police if someone does something wrong on your exit node. Otherwise what could happen is that you run a Tor node and use it as an excuse for any crime you do.

Running an exit node is not any different than being any other ISP. You are providing another hop between servers.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by bcye »

npsomaratna wrote: post #16
schroeding wrote: post #8

Wow, the website of his hosting company[1] is, eh, extremly honest: > Further, as Kosovo is an extremely corrupt country, we are able to bribe both executive and judicative as well as getting information about court orders and raids before execution, enabling us to move servers out of the affected location, protecting our clients in any situation. Our excellent Serbian connections enable us to also move servers cross…

This isn't a parody, right? I mean, surely no-one would (seriously) say this in public in real life? Right?

Parody, honeypot, maybe both

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by pfannkuchen »

zer8k wrote: post #4
teddyh wrote: post #2

“ The law was changed a few weeks later to include private persons and sole traders as protected lsps, not just companies, but they had to convict me. ”

> If convicted, this could land me in jail for 6 to 10 years. The 6 to 10 years is the least of his worries. The guy will be labeled a chomo and probably killed as a result. All for running a Tor exit node. What a time to be alive.

I’ve never seen the term chomo before and I’m curious about its origin. Is it “homo” but with ‘c’ for child tacked on the front, or is it Spanish? Or something else, like a portmanteau of child molester?

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by cs02rm0 »

DennisP wrote: post #9
rvnx wrote: post #6

Quite logical, same in France and likely many countries; if you run a Tor exit node (or any type of open proxy), you get visited by the police if someone does something wrong on your exit node. Otherwise what could happen is that you run a Tor node and use it as an excuse for any crime you do.

I'm trying to imagine a plausible reason to (a) run a Tor exit node, but also (b) not actually use Tor for online nefariousness, and I'm coming up blank. I don't think running a Tor node as an excuse is a real scenario. (edit: emphasis) Edit2: Jeez guys. I support Tor. I'm saying anyone who runs an exit node is also going to use Tor for anything that might get them in trouble, not do those thing in the clear and "use…

Any privacy advocate would do (a). There's lots of reasons to do (b) if you don't trust the government of the country you're in, which seems quite reasonable in a lot of countries around the world.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by monsieurbanana »

DennisP wrote: post #9
rvnx wrote: post #6

Quite logical, same in France and likely many countries; if you run a Tor exit node (or any type of open proxy), you get visited by the police if someone does something wrong on your exit node. Otherwise what could happen is that you run a Tor node and use it as an excuse for any crime you do.

I'm trying to imagine a plausible reason to (a) run a Tor exit node, but also (b) not actually use Tor for online nefariousness, and I'm coming up blank. I don't think running a Tor node as an excuse is a real scenario. (edit: emphasis) Edit2: Jeez guys. I support Tor. I'm saying anyone who runs an exit node is also going to use Tor for anything that might get them in trouble, not do those thing in the clear and "use…

That's not how Tor works, you don't need to run a tor exit to use it.

If you were actually doing something nefarious and using tor for anonymity, running an exit from the same ip doesn't sound extremely smart.

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