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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by Fnoord »

lamontcg wrote: post #206
mschuster91 wrote: post #197

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> I don't think anyone is saying he should be in jail because he's saying misogynistic stuff. For what it's worth, I do. The shit he and others of his ilk teach to young, vulnerable men is inspiring a lot of real-world violations of women, some even get drawn to outright terrorism and murder. In Germany, we call such persons "geistige Brandstifter" for a reason. They may not light a fire on their own - in general the…

> In Germany, we call such persons "geistige Brandstifter" for a reason. The "there's a world for that in German" thing is probably a good (but obviously imperfect) inoculation against extremist propaganda. I'm often frustrated that we don't have pithy little phrases specific to all kinds of bad behavior in English. It is easier to talk about things if they're given specific names.

You're free to adopt them in English. Such as 'schadenfreude'. We got a Dutch word for that; leedvermaak.

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Post by [deleted] »

OfSanguineFire wrote: post #238
orangepurple wrote: post #230

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Run a DC++ client connected to some major hubs and snoop on the queries that people search for and you will lose all hope for humanity.

People definitely search for awful stuff, but that doesn’t mean that such stuff is the only thing shared on DC++. It is films and music that draws so many people to DC++.

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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by brightlancer »

Analemma_ wrote: post #175
charlieyu1 wrote: post #162

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Do jurisdictions really care about child porn before internet? I always feel like it is just a convenient excuse for them to get away with their bullshit, for a largely non-existent problem.

They did, but it only existed on small scales then. The Internet drove the cost of production and distribution down to basically zero, so, as classical economics predicts, the amount of production exploded.

> The Internet drove the cost of production and distribution down to basically zero, so, as classical economics predicts, the amount of production exploded.

No, economics predicts that _use_ will explode if the cost is zero, but that's not a comment on production.

Pocket cameras have reduced the cost to record sexual abuse, but that's dwarfed by the ability to reproduce/ distribute those copies.

I don't think that means sexual abuse is more common. On every other metric we have, it appears sexual abuse is _less_ common.

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Post by toby- »

zo1 wrote: post #256
jmkni wrote: post #90

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> he spent a lot of time downloading maps and trying to make a way to view them locally Isn't that, like, a map? lol we've had maps long before the internet

Have you tried to buy a paper map lately? It's next to impossible, at least here where I am atm.

Where are you that it's "next to impossible"? That really surprises me.

I'm in the UK, and you can walk into any Post Office, WHSmith, bookshop, most newsagents, etc., and pick up maps of the local area or country, usually Ordnance Survey[0] maps.

And (at least when I was in secondary school, about a decade ago) map reading was still taught as a valuable skill, using OS maps.

[0]: https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk

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Post by hotdogscout »

mschuster91 wrote: post #197
sudosysgen wrote: post #170

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I don't think anyone is saying he should be in jail because he's saying misogynistic stuff. The context of his bragging about corrupt officials was on why his illegal casinos and sex trafficking operations didn't have any problems (while he himself never directly admitted to it, some of his associates tweeted about beating a "girlfriend" who wanted to stop doing webcame shows, and he heavily implies it at time when t…

> I don't think anyone is saying he should be in jail because he's saying misogynistic stuff. For what it's worth, I do. The shit he and others of his ilk teach to young, vulnerable men is inspiring a lot of real-world violations of women, some even get drawn to outright terrorism and murder. In Germany, we call such persons "geistige Brandstifter" for a reason. They may not light a fire on their own - in general the…

That is how fascism started, increasing the verbal threat, a string of political assassinations and subsequently not giving a f* because your hands are clean, but shouldn't ideas be challenged not suppressed?

If people cannot be trusted and should rather be cocooned from the true range of human thought, doesn't this go against every assumption we use to justify our freedoms?

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Post by ChainOfFools »

haakon wrote: post #140
EGreg wrote: post #74

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Maybe open source generative AI can help solve cp. Cater to all these pedophile fetishes, and no need to exploit children? Remember how we phased out ivory for piano keys, and other poaching? With diamonds, there is still a push to source “the real thing” kept alive by De Beers, and other cartels like that. But for a lot of poaching, we found replacements. I think that’s how plastic got started too btw! Also PETA has…

Generated CSAM is equally illegal as "real" CSAM in many countries, such as Norway. Here, even fictional descriptions of such material in written form is illegal.

this is possibly because generated CSAM may look like no real human child nor resemble any human child in particular today. give it 5 years and physical distinction from real children and even a specific child is likely to happen. so a photo perfect likeness of your kid ends up in some disgusting video and the creators get off the hook because it's 'not real' by say a narrow color gradiation or kinematic similarity standard undetectable to human eyes? no thanks.

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Post by insickness »

linsomniac wrote: post #112

My BIL used to work CP with the DHS, a tech going in heavy with the first wave to secure devices. I asked him if he had ever run into Tor exits, he said no, but they did sometimes run into people with unsecured wireless that had been used by third parties and once it was clear that was what happened it was pretty much dropped. I'm sure they would have ways to deal with people leaving their WiFi open as a way of camou…

>everyone would turn and look at one person

So the person everyone thinks would do it is pronounced guilty. I don't see any way that could go horribly wrong.

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Post by jrflowers »

PicassoCTs wrote: post #255
jrflowers wrote: post #183

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Can you elaborate on how you know that the human trafficking charges are bogus?

They were for assange, and various other dissidents..

This is a good point. An entirely unrelated person was accused of a completely different crime in a different country once. This is proof that human trafficking doesn’t exist.

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Post by Sterm »

noAnswer wrote: post #204
OfSanguineFire wrote: post #184

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How do you know what was uploaded, let alone that those were the only things uploaded? If I remember Freenet’s model correctly, files were distributed across the network as encrypted fragments and no one knew what exactly was being shared on his own node.

(I was a curious teenager and followed links I shouldn't have.) It had a ~1998 web feel. So you would mostly discover things by surfing around. Normal content would take ages to load or didn't load at all. (Bad distribution, because no-one had interest in it.) While the other stuff would load faster than AmpLand. (Very good distribution, because lots of demand.) Plus: There was a eDonkey like file sharing program tha…

There is no such thing as running a relay in freenet. Every user is the same as every other. The size and traffic of your node is literally a setting on the gui. All traffic and data are encrypted so you have no idea what's living on your node and what's coming in and out. That's the whole point of freenet.

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Post by arrosenberg »

PicassoCTs wrote: post #255
jrflowers wrote: post #183

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Can you elaborate on how you know that the human trafficking charges are bogus?

They were for assange, and various other dissidents..

Even if you believe that, Andrew Tate isn't a dissident, nor does he have any claims to journalistic protections. At best he's a deep-fried Tom Leykis and at worst he's a human trafficker.
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