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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by tamimio »

jaylittle wrote: post #11

I stopped running a Tor non-exit node from home a few years back, because a lot of websites and platforms blacklist any IP associated with Tor. I couldn't actually watch anything on Hulu for years (though they were still happy to take my money, which I refused to give them) because of this. Running a tor node is a thankless thing one can choose to do. Nevertheless I did for years. I don't do it anymore.

>Running a tor node is a thankless thing one can choose to do.

One might argue that’s the case with most activities on the internet, maintaining an open source projects for free? Helping others in forums and online discussions? Dedicating time to find good articles to submit to HN!? The only thing you will get is some brownie points online. I believe who does run an exit node usually aren’t motivated by thanks and upvotes, that being said, thanks for your time and efforts running that node!

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by Eisenstein »

dudeinjapan wrote: post #153
mschuster91 wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Andrew Tate said essentially the same. Turns out corrupt police don't like it when someone brags with that fact. Not that I'd shed any tear for Tate or the other guy though, both deserve all they get and more.

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> The supposed human trafficking charges against him appear to be completely bogus and Kafka-esque, and therefore violate his rights against arbitrary arrest and detention.

I don't know enough details on the 'kafka-esque' nature of the charges, so I won't comment on them, but he has more than one credible rape accusations him against in his home country, and he talks openly about using women as sex workers and taking their income from it.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by tamimio »

bell-cot wrote: post #120
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Further, as Kosovo is an extremely corrupt country, we are able to bribe both executive and judicative as well as getting information about court orders and raids before execution. What happens if someone else is willing to pay a higher bribe than you are...?

Competent corrupt officials can do the math, and understand ongoing 1X bribes are far better than poisoning their money tree by stupidly accepting a one-time 10X bribe.

That actually made me laugh loud!

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by sanderjd »

noAnswer wrote: post #164
sillysaurusx wrote: post #34

The eternal struggle. Information wants to be free, and then people use those freedoms to do the most screwed up things imaginable, and people like this pay the price. It’s a damn shame how the original cyberpunk dream played out. We could’ve had a world where companies couldn’t do anything about people using their ideas. Instead we get one where you can’t even be anonymous without rubbing elbows with child predators…

> Ultimately what drove me away was the literal flood of cp that was always right next to anything to do with tor, whonix, or anonymity in general. As a teen around 2003 I hosted a freenet-node (freenetproject.org). It generated 1TByte/month which I believe was a lot for the time. I shot it down and never came back, because the only things that ever loaded was cp and Chechnya rape and torture videos. Its not a networ…

Humanity is mostly good, it just isn't universally good. Providing services that rely on "universally good" to avoid being dominated by the tiny but horrible minority is always a disaster.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by Analemma_ »

charlieyu1 wrote: post #162
sillysaurusx wrote: post #34

The eternal struggle. Information wants to be free, and then people use those freedoms to do the most screwed up things imaginable, and people like this pay the price. It’s a damn shame how the original cyberpunk dream played out. We could’ve had a world where companies couldn’t do anything about people using their ideas. Instead we get one where you can’t even be anonymous without rubbing elbows with child predators…

Do jurisdictions really care about child porn before internet? I always feel like it is just a convenient excuse for them to get away with their bullshit, for a largely non-existent problem.

They did, but it only existed on small scales then. The Internet drove the cost of production and distribution down to basically zero, so, as classical economics predicts, the amount of production exploded.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by daemontus »

kedean wrote: post #135
sillysaurusx wrote: post #34

The eternal struggle. Information wants to be free, and then people use those freedoms to do the most screwed up things imaginable, and people like this pay the price. It’s a damn shame how the original cyberpunk dream played out. We could’ve had a world where companies couldn’t do anything about people using their ideas. Instead we get one where you can’t even be anonymous without rubbing elbows with child predators…

Just regarding your overall concern around maps and cellular service, Google Maps lets you download maps within very custom sized tiles for offline use. I'm partial to using them when hiking, so I can orient myself in areas where the actual trail markers become questionable. Routing doesn't really work offline, but that's a different/harder problem.

No disrespect, I use offline Google maps almost daily, but there are far far better offline hiking apps out there.

Google will probably work ok for the most popular trails, and I guess you can use it as a supercharged compass. But at least in Europe, if you actually plan a route in any mountains based on Google, you're in for an adventure :)

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by anthk »

haakon wrote: post #140
EGreg wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe open source generative AI can help solve cp. Cater to all these pedophile fetishes, and no need to exploit children? Remember how we phased out ivory for piano keys, and other poaching? With diamonds, there is still a push to source “the real thing” kept alive by De Beers, and other cartels like that. But for a lot of poaching, we found replacements. I think that’s how plastic got started too btw! Also PETA has…

Generated CSAM is equally illegal as "real" CSAM in many countries, such as Norway. Here, even fictional descriptions of such material in written form is illegal.

Even Lolita from Nabokov? Because that book depicted that as joking about the reader and on male society in general, as there was no actual erotism on anything but the narrator's "mind"/protagonist.

Similar on how people got Starship Troopers wrong. Is not about cheering fascism, but to ridicule it.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by gruez »

chad1n wrote: post #19

I'd avoid hosting a tor exit node at all costs, considering that they are a lot of bad actors on tor. Even some 3 letter agents can host cp on your tor sites and then accuse you.

>Even some 3 letter agents can host cp on your tor sites and then accuse you.

You can't use exit nodes to run "tor sites", because they only allow outbound connections. You can run hidden services, but they work entirely through relays (ie. not exit nodes). Given that hidden services are end to end encrypted (none of the relays in the middle can see the traffic), and to my knowledge relay operators have generally not been prosecuted, your specific scenario is unlikely to play out.

That said, if you're running a exit node and the FBI wants to frame you, they can still use your relay to conduct some illegal action (eg. uploading CSAM to some clearnet site), and pin it on you.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by tamimio »

freehorse wrote: post #154
tamimio wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MAC addresses are useless to track, you can change it, randomize it (I think even Microsoft windows has that feature built in too), or simply just throw away that wireless adapter used. It would be useful if for example these MAC addresses are tied to your identity, say when you buy a laptop/phone, you have to go in the process of adding these MAC addresses to be linked to you of some sort.

And imagine if somebody changes their mac address to yours and does some illegal stuff. There is not way that this can work.

>There is not way that this can work.

Exactly!

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by nitwit005 »

linsomniac wrote: post #112

My BIL used to work CP with the DHS, a tech going in heavy with the first wave to secure devices. I asked him if he had ever run into Tor exits, he said no, but they did sometimes run into people with unsecured wireless that had been used by third parties and once it was clear that was what happened it was pretty much dropped. I'm sure they would have ways to deal with people leaving their WiFi open as a way of camou…

> and often everyone would turn and look at one person.

Probably falsely assuming it's the 12 year old son instead of the 35 year old father.

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