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There's a lot of good reasons to hate Apple, but when they're right they're right, and I definitely appreciate that they're willing to stand up for something like this, even if it is in their best interest.
This is marketing. PRISM in the US is proof they don't really care. China and Russia also have data collection on iphones.
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Is WhatsApp still requiring access to your phone's address book before it allows you to use it? It did last time I tried it. There is no chance in hell I'm giving it all the phone numbers, emails and names of people that trusted me by giving me their details. At the time I set up a virtual android environment (samsung called it knox) just to setup WhatsApp in a way it couldn't access my phone's address book. It is ex…
I currently have WhatsApp installed without access to my address book (on Android). It doesn't require it, but it makes it harder to use and locks out some features. Among other things, you can't start a new group / direct message, but you can participate / reply if someone else messages you first.
Good thing the EU just outlawed that model and forced everyone to support "third party app stores" that are thinly-veiled shells for Facebook/Google/etc to bypass that review process.
the "I wanna sideload" crowd are nothing more than allies of convenience for FB and others. Facebook was already experimenting with getting users to manually sideload the full-telemetry build and now they can just say "oops not supported on safari, install the native app".
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/01/facebook-and-google-...
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25% of the entire population is a pretty popular application! Not “hardly anyone”. Also, I’d like to know the volume of messages shared, I have WhatsApp, but wouldn’t miss it it it disappeared. iMessage disappearing would be very inconvenient.
I'm surprised it's even 25% in the UK, and I wonder how that's measured. Maybe the 25% includes things like "opening the iMessage app to read SMS messages sent by two-factor authentication services" etc.
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You must love Meta then, who refused to compromise to enter China (and boy, they tried). While Apple happily shares data with Chinese government to make billions.
You mean how Facebook wouldn’t “compromise” when it was outright banned?
So, yes?
I do like how Apple has backed themselves into a consumer-protecting hole here. I’m sure they would love to have access to that much conversational data themselves, of which no other company has access to. If Siri ever improves too significantly I’ll get nervous.
Companies like money. You can’t eat data, you need a machine that can turn it into money. Facebook uses user data to target ads. Apple doesn’t do this, so they don’t need the data. If Siri gets better, it’s because Apple have switched it to a better LLM, not because Apple started sucking up magic data dust. I’m pretty sure that Siri can already read your messages, that’s the point, it’s a speech interface that runs i…
The magic data dust is only useful if they can use all of it though. I just see some incentive there that I can’t imagine them ignoring in a couple years.
Stuff like this is why I'm an Apple fanboy. I'm happy to pay a premium and be locked into their walled garden for some things if it means supporting a company that has the power to shift policy in favor of human rights (privacy in this case).
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-fbi-icloud-exclusiv...
Even with the new iCloud e2ee, which is not on by default, if you enable it, Apple and FBI/DHS/et al can still read all your messages (unless each and everyone you iMessage with also enables it), because iCloud still escrows iMessage sync keys in non-e2ee iCloud Backups, breaking the e2ee in iMessage.
For 99.99%+ of iMessages, they ARE NOT E2EE and can be read at any time by Apple and provided to the state without a warrant. This is by design. HT202303 explains this, because for some reason Apple doesn't like to publicly lie.
This article is brand marketing, nothing more. It worked on you.
Apple has the ability to ship private devices. They don't because they choose not to fight city hall.
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In fairness, Meta has said the same thing re: WhatsApp, so while Apple deserves _some_ credit here for sticking to their principles, they're not exactly leading the pack. Which brings home the point that if _Meta_ isn't onboard with your privacy-obliterating proposal then you know you've really lost the plot...
In even more fairness, Meta has literally skipped the EU for Threads instead of increasing privacy. In their case, it's just a careful balance of virtue signaling, it had no qualms about pushing their spyware to hundreds of millions of people, violating basic human rights in the process. Check Article 12: https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-huma...
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In fairness, Meta has said the same thing re: WhatsApp, so while Apple deserves _some_ credit here for sticking to their principles, they're not exactly leading the pack. Which brings home the point that if _Meta_ isn't onboard with your privacy-obliterating proposal then you know you've really lost the plot...
I keep writing and deleting responses. I am completely baffled. Speechless, really. You cannot actually believe that meta gives a single solitary fuck about privacy?
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> And changing car brands is way easier than changing smartphone ecosystems, should one of the two players decide to screw you. In what world ? I have switched from iOS to Android and vice versa multiple times while still driving the same car.
>I have switched from iOS to Android and vice versa multiple times while still driving the same car. Did your app purchases form the Google Play Store automatically transfer to your Apple App store, and did your photos off your Google drive transfer to your iCloud, or vice-versa? Read my comment again, I ware referring to the ecosystems not being interchangeable, not the phones themselves. The incompatible ecosystems…
Which apps would those be that you have to buy on iOS and Android separately? Most non game apps are subscription based that work across platforms.
My photos are already sync to Google Photos on my iPhone and if I had an Android device, I would just download the Google Photos app.
Music bought on iTunes has been DRM free since 2008 and Apple Music is available on Android.
Apple, Google, Amazon and a few other platforms and most of the studios participate in MoviesAnywhere where you buy movies from one platform and it shows up as purchased on the other platforms
What data is “trapped”?
Back to SMS (c)