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Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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>attacks upon his honour and reputation Yikes, seems like this is built to keep people from saying things about powerful people that they don't like.

It’s just that there was a time in Europe (about 80 years ago) when among other cruel things, the honor and reputation of a lot of people were actively destroyed for arbitrary reasons.

Can you clarify what you are talking about?

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But who is that 25%? iPhone users have money. I’m sure there is some significant overlap between iMessage and WhatsApp users (I know I and everyone I know use(s) both). But if you threaten politicians with losing their blue bubbles they’re gonna fall in line.

No one in Europe cares about the blue bubbles. I prefer iMessage over the other messengers, but I still haven’t met anyone who cares. A lot of people don’t even know why the bubbles are sometimes green.

Yet, the EU have their panties in a knot about having it be interoperable…

Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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Stuff like this is why I'm an Apple fanboy. I'm happy to pay a premium and be locked into their walled garden for some things if it means supporting a company that has the power to shift policy in favor of human rights (privacy in this case).

You must love Meta then, who refused to compromise to enter China (and boy, they tried). While Apple happily shares data with Chinese government to make billions.

Similarly, Bing is happy to run in China while Google pulled out of there.

Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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Stuff like this is why I'm an Apple fanboy. I'm happy to pay a premium and be locked into their walled garden for some things if it means supporting a company that has the power to shift policy in favor of human rights (privacy in this case).

You must love Meta then, who refused to compromise to enter China (and boy, they tried). While Apple happily shares data with Chinese government to make billions.

You mean how Facebook wouldn’t “compromise” when it was outright banned?

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> And changing car brands is way easier than changing smartphone ecosystems, should one of the two players decide to screw you. In what world ? I have switched from iOS to Android and vice versa multiple times while still driving the same car.

>I have switched from iOS to Android and vice versa multiple times while still driving the same car. Did your app purchases form the Google Play Store automatically transfer to your Apple App store, and did your photos off your Google drive transfer to your iCloud, or vice-versa? Read my comment again, I ware referring to the ecosystems not being interchangeable, not the phones themselves. The incompatible ecosystems…

This is why, every where I can, I only use a company's web app and not their installable app. The few apps that I use as apps, I buy for each platform. This is also why I avoid subs for most apps. Not paying a sub for both platforms for a calendar app.

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Is WhatsApp still requiring access to your phone's address book before it allows you to use it? It did last time I tried it. There is no chance in hell I'm giving it all the phone numbers, emails and names of people that trusted me by giving me their details. At the time I set up a virtual android environment (samsung called it knox) just to setup WhatsApp in a way it couldn't access my phone's address book. It is ex…

It's kinda the point of WhatsApp tho, phone features using your phone number and phone book but over the internet.

The Phone app on my iPhone manages to do all of those things without uploading my contacts list/social graph to anybody else’s servers though.

Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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Hm, I wonder what they do in China. In China they are running their own infrastructure on servers owned by party-affiliated businesses. I wonder how strong their encryption is over there? China blocks many services with strong encryption but it doesn’t block iMessage.

Seems nobody uses iMessage in China. The stats I can find don't even list it. Maybe they're ok with leaving it as a way for visitors to talk to people at home.
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