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Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Sincere question: How are you even going to fit more than one 2.5" drive in a NUC? These things are tiny.

Cable(s) out to an external drive holder with an ATX -> Sata uplift from a DC psu. I run the radxa USB3->SATA bridge pi-Hat which is a jmicron chipset and with the vagueries of USB- attached drives, but SATA like speed through a serialising controller I do pretty well. I'd like to do astonishingly well. So the use case is "yea I can't fit it inside the NUC case but I can bridge it to a small box" -or run the NUC with…

if you don't care about having it all fit inside a case, then the NUC isn't really doing anything for you. just grab any motherboard you want and build yourself a heap of parts like my NAS: https://ibb.co/6W7MkL4

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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I feel like it’s really hard to justify one of these in light of m2 Mac minis. High usage memory applications?

if you're using these in any sort of volume, then the $4-500 of savings is significant.

also, if you're not using MacOS then having hardware that's actually compatible with your OS is nice. all respect to the asahi linux folks, but i'm not going to give that to my customers.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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I find the development quite interesting, and it lends credence to the theory Intel's NUC line was technically profitable (or at least not horrifically in the red), but just didn't make strategic sense - especially from a 'competing with your own customers' view. While I never bought one of these NUCs myself, I've used quite a few deployed as thin clients and kiosk machines. Let's see what ASUS ends up doing with the…

I have been using a NUC as an HTPC for several years now and it's great, though the comments in the previous conversation about them ending the line were right about the noise. I'm in the market for a similar device to replace my dangerously past EOL desktop, and funny enough I have been circling around Asus' SFF line.

I had an htpc for over a decade in various forms. I finally just settled on the Nvidia shield reading over NFS. It's so much better than the htpc I don't regret it for a minute.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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256GB seems pretty small for an HTPC, unless it's just pulling from a server in another room

The key is to use an external SSD via USB. Much better bang for your buck than Apple’s storage pricing.

Or, just as a wild thought, stay away from overpriced hardware.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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I find the development quite interesting, and it lends credence to the theory Intel's NUC line was technically profitable (or at least not horrifically in the red), but just didn't make strategic sense - especially from a 'competing with your own customers' view. While I never bought one of these NUCs myself, I've used quite a few deployed as thin clients and kiosk machines. Let's see what ASUS ends up doing with the…

> and it lends credence to the theory Intel's NUC line was technically profitable (or at least not horrifically in the red), but just didn't make strategic sense - especially from a 'competing with your own customers' view.

Maybe, maybe not. ASUS whose core business is in building PC components would likely have better margins and vertical integration vs Intel that has to work with partners and outsource.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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256GB seems pretty small for an HTPC, unless it's just pulling from a server in another room

The key is to use an external SSD via USB. Much better bang for your buck than Apple’s storage pricing.

While that’s true it kind of ruins the point in getting a small factor computer like a Mac Mini. You want as small a footprint as possible.

Personally I have a USB disk plugged into my router and my HTPC just grabs files over the network.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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A lot of things would work at 2x-4x the NUC price, even without the Apple lock-in.

Costco occasionally has sales on Mac Mini for $299.00 (M1 Mac Mini). Right now a Mac mini – Apple M2 Chip 8-core CPU, 10-core GPU – 8GB Memory – 256GB SSD – Silver is $499 Hard pressed to buy a decent NUC for less.

Just checked on ebay, a 12500H NUC with 16GB ram and 1TB SSD is $518.

You have to be in a completely distorted reality field to choose Apple in these circumstances.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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This makes me less inclined to buy NUCs in the future. I have more faith in Intel to deliver products without cutting corners than asus. I say this with my current and previous mobos both being asus. Intel NUCs were always the premium option in the micro pc market. I’m much more likely to at least look at other integrators now that it’s an Asus NUC.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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I find the development quite interesting, and it lends credence to the theory Intel's NUC line was technically profitable (or at least not horrifically in the red), but just didn't make strategic sense - especially from a 'competing with your own customers' view. While I never bought one of these NUCs myself, I've used quite a few deployed as thin clients and kiosk machines. Let's see what ASUS ends up doing with the…

I have been using a NUC as an HTPC for several years now and it's great, though the comments in the previous conversation about them ending the line were right about the noise. I'm in the market for a similar device to replace my dangerously past EOL desktop, and funny enough I have been circling around Asus' SFF line.

I have used many kinds of NUCs from various generations and a pair of NUC8 (i.e. with Coffee Lake U CPUs) are much quieter than both the earlier and the later NUCs.

Most of the time they are completely inaudible. I have one that works 24/7 as a server in the room where I sleep. You can hear them only at full load, which in these NUCs means 50 W power for the first half minute, and then 30 W forever.

Unfortunately later Intel reverted to the use of cheaper, noisier fans. I have not used the last two generations of NUCs, so I do not know how they compare in noise.

So the various models of NUCs can differ a lot in noise.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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With one of the third party cases, such as those from Akasa, they are nice inexpensive fanless machines with excellent Linux support and low power consumption.

I would remove the word "inexpensive". Many alternatives cost less. I know people buy Intel for brand, quality and warranty but definitely not price.

I bought for price - a max mini would have been better but ludicrously expensive.
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