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ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by j45 »

Jabihjo wrote: post #46

I'm looking forward to this! A couple of years ago, I had decided to upgrade my self hosted solutions after running two NUCs non-stop that are almost ten years old (and still running!). Unfortunately, I decided to go cheap with the upgrade and I bought two Minisforum computers, and one of them decided to crap out after just 6 months. No word from support yet. I want to believe that I would have gotten much better sup…

The hard thing about the rabbit hole is when you have one, you need two to mirror, and then maybe a third to stage or develop with…

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by ggm »

quailfarmer wrote: post #63
ggm wrote: post #50

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Cable(s) out to an external drive holder with an ATX -> Sata uplift from a DC psu. I run the radxa USB3->SATA bridge pi-Hat which is a jmicron chipset and with the vagueries of USB- attached drives, but SATA like speed through a serialising controller I do pretty well. I'd like to do astonishingly well. So the use case is "yea I can't fit it inside the NUC case but I can bridge it to a small box" -or run the NUC with…

What you’re describing is not a product, it’s a kludge. Even if you can stomach the poor reliability of an octopus of wires, a product designed to be used like that is likely to fail EMI testing. I’ve certainly done this with SAS Harnesses coming out the side of my tower case, but you can’t expect a company to make a product with this use case in mind. There exists SFF NAS boxes with room for many drives for this pur…

The NAS boxes I can see either assume USB-C or don't seem to provide much clue to how to use an eSATA to connect between things. If they were easy to work with I think there would be a lot more 'use this box to house the disks and this cable to connect over to the computer' and sure, I'd use the single SATA at some saturated speed.

I live in ZFS. These box makers often assume you want to run their Raid card, and have optioned up 'to make it better' without understanding ZFS exists, uses its memory efficiently (ignore the 'not on less than 4GB' thing its highly specific to some time in history and de-dupe) and wants a dull-as-ditchwater HBA to talk to the drives. Or, worse yet, they embed the CPU and you buy their packaged solution with their suite of apps and their model of GUI. Like the NAS I moved off, which had a sparc CPU and ceased being able to run, aside from which it was locked to You're not wrong btw. I am just saying "no, the home NAS space isn't as easy as you say, if you want to run ZFS yourself" unless I have missed a key term to search for, getting standalone drive enclosures.

I can believe I am not the market. Mainly because very few SBCs have more than one SATA slot, even less more than 2 and many of the M.2 keyed sata cards are listed in a homebrew filestore page with "odd chip, drivers uncommon" -If I was the market I am sure by now, more of them would be mainstream and more web pages would say "sure: its easy!"

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by Rebelgecko »

ChumpGPT wrote: post #44
jojobas wrote: post #42

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A lot of things would work at 2x-4x the NUC price, even without the Apple lock-in.

Costco occasionally has sales on Mac Mini for $299.00 (M1 Mac Mini). Right now a Mac mini – Apple M2 Chip 8-core CPU, 10-core GPU – 8GB Memory – 256GB SSD – Silver is $499 Hard pressed to buy a decent NUC for less.

256GB seems pretty small for an HTPC, unless it's just pulling from a server in another room

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by rizky05 »

j45 wrote: post #58
bfdm wrote: post #25

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I have been using a NUC as an HTPC for several years now and it's great, though the comments in the previous conversation about them ending the line were right about the noise. I'm in the market for a similar device to replace my dangerously past EOL desktop, and funny enough I have been circling around Asus' SFF line.

Lenovo has the thinkcentre line Dell has the optiplex Go has the elitedesk and pro desk All in mini/usff formfactor similar to the size of a Mac mini.

Did you meant Go = HP. I made the same typo anyway, they are one keystroke away.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by slimsag »

Daegalus wrote: post #69

There are many nice NUC like devices on Amazon. BeeLink makes some good ones with both Intel and AMD. I think this is a great end result for the NUC. Asus makes some good stuff and they can probably push the NUC some more for reasonable prices.

Beelink devices are great. Super powerful for the price.

I wish they sold ARM ones. I've been wondering if it'd be possible to put a full arm linux desktop distribution on one of their 'super console x king' devices, which seem to be a rebranded Beelink GT King which they used to offer the ability to install arbitrary linux distro's on.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by midoridensha »

duskwuff wrote: post #60
midoridensha wrote: post #54

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Intel never made board-level stuff in-house; no one does this in fact. It's always outsourced to a contract manufacturer that specializes in PCBs. Intel probably did their own PCB design however.

> Intel probably did their own PCB design however. They do. I've heard rumors that some motherboard manufacturers don't have the skills in-house to design and simulate high-speed portions of the PCB (like the memory bus) themselves; they use Intel (or AMD) reference designs for that portion of the board.

Yes, I've heard similar things, that a lot of PC motherboards were basically slightly modified reference PCBs from Intel. The high-speed portions of the boards were really difficult to design.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by scarface_74 »

hunter2_ wrote: post #65
natecruft wrote: post #23

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Yes. Failing to mention AI regarding any investment is basically MBA malpractice at this point. To err is human. To arr is pirate. To AI is lemming. At least it isn't yet AIoTaaS.

Now you've got me thinking of a hardware freemium model where you get some freebie IoT device on your home network, and its neural net convinces you to start paying its subscription fee (implemented with blockchain) once you're feeling done putting up with some limitation of the free version.

This was all the rage back in 1999. ISPs we’re giving away “free” eMachines with the purchase of a 3 year MSN dialup subscription.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by lockhouse »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #73
ChumpGPT wrote: post #44

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Costco occasionally has sales on Mac Mini for $299.00 (M1 Mac Mini). Right now a Mac mini – Apple M2 Chip 8-core CPU, 10-core GPU – 8GB Memory – 256GB SSD – Silver is $499 Hard pressed to buy a decent NUC for less.

256GB seems pretty small for an HTPC, unless it's just pulling from a server in another room

The key is to use an external SSD via USB. Much better bang for your buck than Apple’s storage pricing.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by yla92 »

Daegalus wrote: post #69

There are many nice NUC like devices on Amazon. BeeLink makes some good ones with both Intel and AMD. I think this is a great end result for the NUC. Asus makes some good stuff and they can probably push the NUC some more for reasonable prices.

+1 for BeeLink stuff. I was surprised how tiny they were and yet still powerful!

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by kcb »

ChumpGPT wrote: post #44
jojobas wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of things would work at 2x-4x the NUC price, even without the Apple lock-in.

Costco occasionally has sales on Mac Mini for $299.00 (M1 Mac Mini). Right now a Mac mini – Apple M2 Chip 8-core CPU, 10-core GPU – 8GB Memory – 256GB SSD – Silver is $499 Hard pressed to buy a decent NUC for less.

Having to spend $200 per 8GB of RAM and $200 per 256GB of storage like it's still 2012 pretty much destroys any value proposition from Apple.
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