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ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by kcb »

nickpeterson wrote: post #37
NikolaNovak wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are the minis upgradeable? My nuc now has an nvme drive and a 2.5" ssd, and I've upped it to 32gb ram for some light vmware work. On the other side of spectrum I have a few cheap nucs with celeron for media tv and streaming purposes. If I read it correctly, Mac mini is 800cad for 8gb ram and 256 sdd.

I understand, but I feel like nucs always end up at this weird, “I’m going to drop 200 on ram, 200 on a ssd and have a 700-900 dollar thing that has no second hand value and really isn’t that powerful”. I remember throttling being an issue as well. Add a custom heat sink and some thermal paste? (50-100 more..) It just feels like you’re paper cutting your way into a more expensive system. Not sure on small form factor…

Have you seen the prices of RAM and SSDs lately? You can get name brand 32gb of DDR5 and a 1 TB NVME drive for a little over $100. Apple is literally charging 1000% markup on these upgrades.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by jojobas »

adastra22 wrote: post #28
bfdm wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been using a NUC as an HTPC for several years now and it's great, though the comments in the previous conversation about them ending the line were right about the noise. I'm in the market for a similar device to replace my dangerously past EOL desktop, and funny enough I have been circling around Asus' SFF line.

Would a Mac mini work?

A lot of things would work at 2x-4x the NUC price, even without the Apple lock-in.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by dboreham »

hotpotamus wrote: post #29
bee_rider wrote: post #6

About a week ago we had an article about Intel leaving the NUC market. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36680674 It seems a bit slapdash to announce that ASUS is taking the brand forward a week later. Like if they were planning on doing this for a while, it would be an orderly transfer, right? So, what, did somebody at ASUS see that ServeTheHome article and decide to just go for it? Anyway, I really like NUCs, an…

I don't really know how computers are made so I assumed that ASUS or someone like them was already the OEM for most of a NUC anyway. I didn't think Intel had any ability to make anything other than chips.

> I didn't think Intel had any ability to make anything other than chips.

Historically this was definitely not the case. Intel made board level products in house, and systems for code development, ICE units etc.

These days, probably it is all outsourced.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by ChumpGPT »

jojobas wrote: post #42
adastra22 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would a Mac mini work?

A lot of things would work at 2x-4x the NUC price, even without the Apple lock-in.

Costco occasionally has sales on Mac Mini for $299.00 (M1 Mac Mini).

Right now a Mac mini – Apple M2 Chip 8-core CPU, 10-core GPU – 8GB Memory – 256GB SSD – Silver is $499

Hard pressed to buy a decent NUC for less.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by Jabihjo »

I'm looking forward to this! A couple of years ago, I had decided to upgrade my self hosted solutions after running two NUCs non-stop that are almost ten years old (and still running!). Unfortunately, I decided to go cheap with the upgrade and I bought two Minisforum computers, and one of them decided to crap out after just 6 months. No word from support yet. I want to believe that I would have gotten much better support from Intel, if anything would have happened. Also, in general, the NUCs have been more stable with seemingly mundane "features" like sleeping. I know these are just two data points, but I felt validated reading some of the other comments on the HN post from the other day where Intel announced discontinuing the NUC and where people were praising Intel for Linux support and whatnot.

I'm slowly starting to accept that I shouldn't skimp on things that I want to be robust.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by defrost »

ggm wrote: post #21

Dear ASUS: please make a range of NUC with either on-board 4+ SATA lanes or a PCIx instance which can take a daughtercard which does true parallel SATA, not serialised. TL;DR the market for home RAID/NAS is huge. We need you to stop needing us to max out with only 1 device, and sometimes M.2 keying isn't where we are. People are well beyond "2 disks is enough" in a home NAS now. thanksbai.

The Helios64 was a serious contender with a promising future ... until the small team got hammered with pandemic and supply chain issues.

https://wiki.kobol.io/helios64/intro/

https://www.hackster.io/news/open-spec-nas-specialist-kobol-...

https://old.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/plrwos/looking...

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by TillE »

silisili wrote: post #33
bigyikes wrote: post #3

It's hard to take ASUS seriously with a quote like: > this collaboration will enhance and accelerate our vision for the mini PC – greatly expanding our footprint in areas such as AI and AIoT It's just dripping in buzzword doublespeak. The NUCs seem like cool devices, do we really have to shoehorn "AI" and -- I had to re-read this -- "AIoT" into everything?

Wait the I in IoT was internet....is that...artificial internet?

"Artificial Intelligence of Things" is also total gibberish.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by ggm »

Dalewyn wrote: post #30
ggm wrote: post #21

Dear ASUS: please make a range of NUC with either on-board 4+ SATA lanes or a PCIx instance which can take a daughtercard which does true parallel SATA, not serialised. TL;DR the market for home RAID/NAS is huge. We need you to stop needing us to max out with only 1 device, and sometimes M.2 keying isn't where we are. People are well beyond "2 disks is enough" in a home NAS now. thanksbai.

Sincere question: How are you even going to fit more than one 2.5" drive in a NUC? These things are tiny.

Cable(s) out to an external drive holder with an ATX -> Sata uplift from a DC psu.

I run the radxa USB3->SATA bridge pi-Hat which is a jmicron chipset and with the vagueries of USB- attached drives, but SATA like speed through a serialising controller I do pretty well. I'd like to do astonishingly well.

So the use case is "yea I can't fit it inside the NUC case but I can bridge it to a small box" -or run the NUC with the lid off and re-tool the case.

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