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Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

#101
post #88

I will always vouch for Firefox, It's been my primary browser since 2018 and there's no turning back. However its worth noting that while my FF windows experience has been painless I cannot say the same for Linux.

On Fedora, I usually have issues with video playback, wayland, and browser/tab crashes.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

#102
post #72

Firefox is a great browser and Mozilla is a (generally) great organization. It's my daily driver on all my devices (except my TV ha), it's fast and has great plugins that also work in mobile. Philosophically I'm very much a "root for the underdog" type of person so it makes me happy that way, too. Only very rarely (every few months) am I forced to use Chrome for a site - and in my view, that's a huge ding on the site…

What do you find lacking in Firefox dev tools? For me I actually prefer them to Chrome.

They just said they're more used to the Chrome version, not that the Firefox version is lacking.

(Personally I'm with you in preferring Firefox dev tools - although I'm not someone who needs to use them more than a few times a month - not because I have any specific issues with Chrome dev tools, but because I prefer Firefox, and Mozilla, generally, and I've not found anything that FF can't do.)

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

#103

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I used to keep Chrome installed just for the dev tools, but the Firefox dev tools became good enough in probably 2013 or so.

Firefox gave birth to the first good dev tools as an extension IIRC

Yep, Firebug

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

#104
post #85

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>Firefox's Container Tabs is hard for me to imagine losing. Yes, and the lack of a viable vertical tabs solution for Chrome (though some Chrome based browsers have native implementations). I am baffled how anyone could still be using horizontal tabs as it is clearly inferior. I am also annoyed as hell that it is not native in Firefox.

What extension do you use for vertical tabs on FF? I tried tree style tabs and sideberry but liked neither.

Out of the box Tree Style Tabs is not very good, due to decisions made by Firefox that are beyond the control of Tree Style Tabs's developer.

Enabling the desired behavior likely requires quite a few steps beyond just installing the extension.

https://github.com/piroor/treestyletab/wiki/Code-snippets-fo...

Originally, Firefox had a dropdown menu that allowed the user to choose whether tabs were on the top, bottom, left, or right.

This has been an annoying trend with Firefox for some time. They take the default, expected functionality, marginalize it while saying "Users who prefer the old way can enable it in a setting / extension" and then the setting gets deprecated or the extension stops working.

See also: "Classic Theme Restorer".

All the while software that might work better as an extension is bundled with Firefox and enabled by default. e.g. "Pocket", "Hello".

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

#106
post #85

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>Firefox's Container Tabs is hard for me to imagine losing. Yes, and the lack of a viable vertical tabs solution for Chrome (though some Chrome based browsers have native implementations). I am baffled how anyone could still be using horizontal tabs as it is clearly inferior. I am also annoyed as hell that it is not native in Firefox.

What extension do you use for vertical tabs on FF? I tried tree style tabs and sideberry but liked neither.

Tree Style Tabs would be so great if it had folders/nodes for categories of tabs. My workaround are tabs with fittingly named Wikipedia articles, but a builtin feature would be more pleasant to use.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

#107

There was a time when Firefox felt a lot slower than Chromium, but for a few years now it's been close enough (even if still somewhat slower) to not bother me, while Firefox clearly offers superior functionality and much better performance under high load. The last time Chromium has felt attractive compared to Firefox was a really long time ago. Glad to see it moving in the right direction still.

Firefox is slower for me than Chrome, but that's because I have tab hoarding problem(2k tabs in Firefox right now).

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

#108

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I found chrome on macOS to be a sloppy implementation Years ago I remember it was the one app that could reliably kernel panic my MacBook Strange stuff

how the shit does a browser just casually kernel panic the OS ‽ O_o

Blind guess: GPU driver bug

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

#110
post #85

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>Firefox's Container Tabs is hard for me to imagine losing. Yes, and the lack of a viable vertical tabs solution for Chrome (though some Chrome based browsers have native implementations). I am baffled how anyone could still be using horizontal tabs as it is clearly inferior. I am also annoyed as hell that it is not native in Firefox.

What extension do you use for vertical tabs on FF? I tried tree style tabs and sideberry but liked neither.

Tree Style Tabs are great, but y'all should really check out Sideberry! It's modern and works very well.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sidebery/

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