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Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by toastal »

seba_dos1 wrote: post #17

There was a time when Firefox felt a lot slower than Chromium, but for a few years now it's been close enough (even if still somewhat slower) to not bother me, while Firefox clearly offers superior functionality and much better performance under high load. The last time Chromium has felt attractive compared to Firefox was a really long time ago. Glad to see it moving in the right direction still.

Fx provided a decent enough performance boost with its builtin tracking blocker that more than made up for any difference in real world scenarios. …But I never switch away from Gecko since Fx v2.x.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by toyg »

happymellon wrote: post #51
haswell wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Container tabs isolate sessions. I don’t think tab grouping is related. Firefox allows you to create/manage multiple containers, and set up rules to assign specific sites to specific containers if desired. I think the closest feature in Chrome is the ability to create multiple profiles, but this is less flexible/ergonomic IMO.

In some ways profiles works better, and in others container tabs does. I have two password managers, one for work and one for home. Multiple profiles lets me work with both. Container tabs lets me log into a site multiple times, or when they have a session cookie that prevents me from navigating to two different flows. Both great, both fill completely different niches.

Firefox has profiles too, btw.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by markandrewj »

emsixteen wrote: post #36
seba_dos1 wrote: post #17

There was a time when Firefox felt a lot slower than Chromium, but for a few years now it's been close enough (even if still somewhat slower) to not bother me, while Firefox clearly offers superior functionality and much better performance under high load. The last time Chromium has felt attractive compared to Firefox was a really long time ago. Glad to see it moving in the right direction still.

I use it, but just don't like the devtools. Or moreso miss some things from Chrome/Edge.

Give Firefox Developer Edition a try, if haven't already, and are looking for more robust development tools.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by dylan604 »

systems_glitch wrote: post #63
javajosh wrote: post #50

Firefox is a great browser and Mozilla is a (generally) great organization. It's my daily driver on all my devices (except my TV ha), it's fast and has great plugins that also work in mobile. Philosophically I'm very much a "root for the underdog" type of person so it makes me happy that way, too. Only very rarely (every few months) am I forced to use Chrome for a site - and in my view, that's a huge ding on the site…

Same. Been using it since it was called Camino then Firebird, a confusing namespace collision :P

Maybe they can use Screaming Chicken for a future name

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by seapat »

wintermutestwin wrote: post #71
xd1936 wrote: post #8

I've used Firefox as my primary browser since the "Quantum" in 2017. Chrome still feels snappier, but Firefox's Container Tabs is hard for me to imagine losing.

>Firefox's Container Tabs is hard for me to imagine losing. Yes, and the lack of a viable vertical tabs solution for Chrome (though some Chrome based browsers have native implementations). I am baffled how anyone could still be using horizontal tabs as it is clearly inferior. I am also annoyed as hell that it is not native in Firefox.

What extension do you use for vertical tabs on FF? I tried tree style tabs and sideberry but liked neither.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by trewqasdf »

It's nice to hear that they are not falling behind. I switched to Firefox after Opera started to decline. I rely heavily on multi-account containers, but it is a pity that they can't run their own engine on iOS. I have nothing against the dev tools in Firefox, but it is way easier to google issues for chrome dev tools.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by dylan604 »

askl wrote: post #31
p-e-w wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's like saying "If your car runs too slow, toss out the back seats." History and extensions are there for a reason. And managing the cache is the browser's job, not the user's.

You can also save some more weight by never filling the gas tank up to more than 25% capacity.

But that makes high speed chases impractical as you have to keep stopping for gas

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by toastal »

e4m2 wrote: post #32

See also https://arewefastyet.com .

I believe this domain started at the big 4.x version drop which was the turn of a new era in the Browser Wars. I remember using Minefield because the new features were too tempting to miss & this was before evergreen versioning became the norm.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by 5e92cb50239222b »

bayindirh wrote: post #78
5e92cb50239222b wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on your region and what sites you're using. I live in the middle of nowhere far from civilization, and 1.1.1.1 returns terrible IPs for many sites including google.com (which pings at 350-400 ms if you resolve it through 1.1.1.1, but at 90-100 ms if you're using any other resolver). They do it because they block EDNS0 in order to protect your privacy or something like that. So I use 8.8.8.8 and 9.9.9.9 in par…

Isn't enabling "query all DNS servers in parallel" discouraged in DNSMasq? Instead I increase the directory size to 4K and be done with it.

Maybe. I don't recommend it for the typical user of this site (probably could have phrased that one better — I believe `EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK` should use 9.9.9.9 instead of Google or Cloudflare, not that they should implement my parallel bullshit).

It makes sense here because of bad peering: 8.8.8.8 may be responding in 90 ms right now, but could very well start taking 200 ms a few hours later. So I use multiple services as a backup of sorts.

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