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Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by pokeymcsnatch » Tue, Jul 18, 2023, 12:48 PM UTC

dherikb wrote: post #29

I'm just waiting for the vertical tabs support to give a new chance for Firefox.

Eh? Firefox vertical tab support is much better than Chromium's in my experience. The chrome addons I've seen are hacky and clunky. It doesn't seem like chrome UI has nearly the same modifiability as firefox.

Edit: I use the Tree Style Tabs add on

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by eyegor » Tue, Jul 18, 2023, 12:50 PM UTC

dherikb wrote: post #29

I'm just waiting for the vertical tabs support to give a new chance for Firefox.

Tree style tabs is a vertical tab extension for ff and the best ui around if you use a lot of tabs. I can't even use chromium vertical tabs anymore because they feel terrible in comparison. You can also fully style tree style tabs via css.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by afavour » Tue, Jul 18, 2023, 12:50 PM UTC

I’d be curious to see how Safari stacks up. I switched to it when I was finding Firefox too slow a long time and have largely stuck with it because of inertia. Very happy with it as a browser though.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by happymellon » Tue, Jul 18, 2023, 12:51 PM UTC

rewmie wrote: post #34

xd1936 wrote: post #8

I've used Firefox as my primary browser since the "Quantum" in 2017. Chrome still feels snappier, but Firefox's Container Tabs is hard for me to imagine losing.

> (...) but Firefox's Container Tabs is hard for me to imagine losing. Are you referring to Firefox's multi-account containers extension? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers

I can't speak for them, but it's what I thought of and agree.

Sandboxed tabs is brilliant.

I just wish they added better overall profile support.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by flerchin » Tue, Jul 18, 2023, 12:51 PM UTC

e4m2 wrote: post #32

See also https://arewefastyet.com .

Really cool how you can see Firefox speed enhancements showing up in discrete steps.

I am surprised to see Chrome faster than Chromium. What is google doing in their branded flavor?

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by steveBK123 » Tue, Jul 18, 2023, 12:53 PM UTC

dt2m wrote: post #7

Anecdotally, Firefox has always been faster than Chrome on MacOS for me. Great to see it’s only getting even better.

I found chrome on macOS to be a sloppy implementation

Years ago I remember it was the one app that could reliably kernel panic my MacBook

Strange stuff

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by MilaM » Tue, Jul 18, 2023, 12:53 PM UTC

LargeDiggerNick wrote: post #4

After this quick switch profile addon was release I have been 100% on firefox and love it.

I use profiles extensively and would love to know which extension you are using. Containers cover most of my sandboxing needs for private browsing, but I prefer to have a separate Firefox profile for business accounts/apps.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by bayindirh » Tue, Jul 18, 2023, 12:54 PM UTC

xd1936 wrote: post #8

I've used Firefox as my primary browser since the "Quantum" in 2017. Chrome still feels snappier, but Firefox's Container Tabs is hard for me to imagine losing.

Chrome's most of the snappiness is coming from how it handles the DNS queries internally from my experience.

Pair Firefox with a fast DNS, and it's noticably faster than Chrome, for the last 3 years or so.

I discovered it accidentally, after switching to local DNS at the office. We run one of the nation-wide ones in a pretty close proximity in network terms.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by chaxor » Tue, Jul 18, 2023, 12:54 PM UTC

rewmie wrote: post #34

xd1936 wrote: post #8

I've used Firefox as my primary browser since the "Quantum" in 2017. Chrome still feels snappier, but Firefox's Container Tabs is hard for me to imagine losing.

> (...) but Firefox's Container Tabs is hard for me to imagine losing. Are you referring to Firefox's multi-account containers extension? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers

This is indeed fantastic, but paired with container proxies, it's awesome.

You can send a few tabs through one socks proxy, a few through another, all while segmenting that from work, personal, etc. if you have a vpn for one work location and different ones for other work.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by javajosh » Tue, Jul 18, 2023, 12:54 PM UTC

Firefox is a great browser and Mozilla is a (generally) great organization. It's my daily driver on all my devices (except my TV ha), it's fast and has great plugins that also work in mobile. Philosophically I'm very much a "root for the underdog" type of person so it makes me happy that way, too. Only very rarely (every few months) am I forced to use Chrome for a site - and in my view, that's a huge ding on the site devs, not on Firefox.

It's strange hearing reports of "scroll lag" in the other comments. It's possible I'm just lucky. Or there's a misconfiguration somewhere in their setup that Chrome somehow avoids.

It's true that I still mostly use Chrome for webdev - I've become more used to it's (excellent) dev tools, even though Firefox and Firebug started that whole trend. It feels very right to separate my "user browser" from my "dev browser" in this way!