Disney, Netflix, and more are fighting FTC's 'click to cancel' proposal

Post by tiltowait » Fri, Jul 14, 2023, 4:24 PM UTC

didsomeonesay wrote: post #138

Subscription providers will be as shameless as allowed by law. Or worse. I try to cancel subscriptions immidiately after signing up when i only want the service for a limited time. For an Italian newspaper's online subscription, after contacting them for cancellation via web form, my family was informed: you have to call a number and that cancellations will only be accepted 1 day before the end of the subscription. L…

Post by partdavid » Fri, Jul 14, 2023, 5:16 PM UTC

themitigating wrote: post #305

partdavid wrote: post #256

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Yes, you're right, it's not possible for "a company" to commit fraud and still be a company, right? If the world worked like that, you would expect to find many examples of companies committing fraud. And you'd never find a bank like Wells Fargo committing fraud for money, right? Because surely they wouldn't be a bank? And you'd never find a company violating its own user privacy rules, like Facebook, because they'd…

I looked into this a bit. If your subscription is inactive you can reactivate it at anytime. If you log into Netflix through an app and you don't have an active subscription because it was canceled normally it will prompt you with something like "Re-activate account" or "Re-activate subscription". I do want to correct something I said. You said that Netflix doesn't really know it's you. My response was that you gave…

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jul 14, 2023, 7:01 PM UTC

tiltowait wrote: post #531

didsomeonesay wrote: post #138

Subscription providers will be as shameless as allowed by law. Or worse. I try to cancel subscriptions immidiately after signing up when i only want the service for a limited time. For an Italian newspaper's online subscription, after contacting them for cancellation via web form, my family was informed: you have to call a number and that cancellations will only be accepted 1 day before the end of the subscription. L…

>I try to cancel subscriptions immidiately after signing up when i only want the service for a limited time. Maddening: Apple requires iOS devs to allow a trial to run its full course even if the user cancels early. There's an exception, though. Wanna guess what it is? Yep, Apple's own services. Cancel an Apple Music, TV, etc. trial early, and it ends immediately. Apple: "Rules for thee, not for me."

Post by sitkack » Fri, Jul 14, 2023, 11:34 PM UTC

lolinder wrote: post #111

sitkack wrote: post #110

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No the onus is not on the customer to not step on the landmine.

My point is that we don't know if it was a landmine or a very clearly labeled bit of C4 with a lever next to it labeled "explode". I've logged into a cancelled Netflix account before, and while they definitely want you to renew, there's a very clearly marked button that includes the renewal price. If OP's dad absent-mindedly clicked that button, that's a very different story than if simply logging in and navigating t…

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jul 15, 2023, 5:39 AM UTC

fargle wrote: post #301

sonicshadow wrote: post #184

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Lol this even fits with how they do PR reviews and code critiques. When I submit a long PR for review, I know that none of the comments will be substantive or useful. They'll just be meta-critiques about how the headers aren't alphabetized or private members need to come after public. Not about the actual content.

if you can't even clean the basic stuff up to whatever formal or informal coding standard there is, then why should anyone look deeper? yes, that stuff is unimportant to function. however, if you are getting such comments it means that there is an established standard, and willfully (or sloppily) ignoring it is the problem. there's also the problem of bike-shedding. but then again if you take the time to be meticulou…