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Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by askiiart »

scns wrote: post #289
pluijzer wrote: post #264

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Did you try setting your User Agent to Chrome? I have to use Teams for work. Under Firefox it has problems and missing features, setting my user agent to Chrome solves all of it. Highly uncompetitive if you ask me.

Thank you. That tip might lessen my need to use Brave for sites only working in Chrome.

Also, pro tip: copying the most popular user-agent string gives you a bit of extra protection against fingerprinting. As of the time of writing, the most populated user-agent string is this: "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/114.0.0.0 Safari/537.36"

Source: https://techblog.willshouse.com/2012/01/03/most-common-user-...

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by IshKebab »

ehnto wrote: post #267
globular-toast wrote: post #222

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I care about other people having to suffer a shitty computing experience.

It is a little funny that I can't tell if this comment is pro or against desktop Linux.

Could be both tbh. There are definitely ways in which Linux is better - no ads (cough Microsoft) or artificial restrictions (e.g. recording desktop audio cough Apple).

But in the most important ways - software availability and reliability - it is much worse.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by Rediscover »

Gordonjcp wrote: post #308
jacknews wrote: post #257

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Honestly it's less like Netherlands and more like Sudan (or France?) sometimes. I've also used linux since SLS for what it's worth. Choice is fine as long as everything can integrate properly and work together. Maybe the desktop could do with a little bit of Singapore's sort-of benevolent-ish dictatorship - that's how the kernel is developed after all.

Lasermoon for me, which was a slight fork of SLS. Before that, whatever Linux it was it came on about half a dozen 1.44MB floppies. I remember it used a Linux 0.9 kernel, but not much else - except it was a Real Proper Unix System like I had at university, except *on my very own desktop PC*! With a compiler and everything! And SLIP!

Perhaps that was MCC/Interim?

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by smoldesu »

mkl wrote: post #407
smoldesu wrote: post #185

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Linux actually ships on Deck. FreeBSD kernels do not ship or likely even run OOB on Playstation hardware.

FreeBSD kernels ship and run on PS4: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_4_system_software Not sure about PS5.

> The native operating system of the PlayStation 4 is Orbis OS, which is a fork of FreeBSD version 9.0 which was released on January 12, 2012.[6][7]

That doesn't mean it's running BSD. For example, MacOS runs a non-BSD kernel with lots of BSD networking code added on-top. It is not a BSD-based Operating System but it does use BSD code to create it's environment. I would not for a single second believe that the PS4 runs an unmodified FreeBSD kernel. There is just no upstream code to support this claim.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by cmilton »

DrThunder wrote: post #427
cmilton wrote: post #350

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I agree. Google Classroom exploded during the pandemic in my local school systems. Enterprises are moving to Workspace from 365. I hope they drive each other's prices to the bottom. :)

Nah... We've had Workspace for a long time and there are still users that adamantly refuse to use Google Apps over MS. They actually have good reasons as well. Since Google just has web apps only there's always extra steps uploading all the office docs they get from other businesses. We tried blowing Office 2013 away on everyone's machines after being told most users didn't think they needed it. Now, a few months lat…

Great feedback!

Excel specifically seems to have the most attachment among our users.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by [deleted] »

dna_polymerase wrote: post #210
hnlmorg wrote: post #114

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No. I will use the OS I like and others will use the OS they prefer. It’s called choice. What stung before was that people were forced to use Windows because of lock-ins, software compatibility, etc. That doesn’t really exist any more. If there is one good thing about web apps, it’s that browsers are now the application run time and browsers are more cross platform than any software libraries that have come before it…

> What stung before was that people were forced to use Windows because of lock-ins, software compatibility, etc. That doesn’t really exist any more. What? This is very real and a key driver not to use Linux or Mac for millions of users. As soon as even a little performance is required webapps just can't compare. Look at anything graphics related especially 3d, CAD or video. You might be able to build shitty infograph…

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Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by einpoklum »

wheels wrote: post #223
einpoklum wrote: post #219

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> Releasing binaries is still a PITA for Linux. Is it really that bad? I mean, many small FOSS programs provide packages for multiple distributions. Are they busting their balls building that stuff?

Most of the time those packages, or the build files for them, are contributed by the distributions themselves, or avid users of those distros. (Reference: I have multiple software projects I've created that are a part of every Linux distribution. I've never packaged any of them myself.) Even big enterprise companies usually work directly with the distros under NDA, and the distros produce the packages. That works for…

> Most of the time those packages, or the build files for them, are contributed by the distributions themselves

I'm not sure about your statistical claim. Of course my impression is purely anecdotal, but I'm thinking of examples like:

https://mkvtoolnix.download/downloads.html

or:

https://www.monetdb.org/easy-setup/ (and press the Linux button)

they seem to providing their own builds. And - if you wrote your build system reasonably (e.g. CMake, properly check for dependencies etc.) - then building on different distros would not be much of a headache. You may not provide 40 different binary packages, and they may only fit recent versions of the popular distributions, but - after you set this up once, I wonder if it isn't just running a script after you have your versioned source tarball release.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by oldandboring »

DeathArrow wrote: post #253

I'd venture to say 99% of people don't give a damn on what their os is. All they care is to run their apps without the os getting in their way or breaking. They don't feel the need to and don't want to be forced to tweak, customize, fine tune and manage that os a lot.

I'll go even further and say that most people, even younger people, still think in terms of "computer" and not OS, like it's an appliance. It's about as sophisticated an understanding out there as it was in the 90s. When I'm asked for computer buying advice, they ask me "Mac or PC?" or maybe "Mac or Dell?" For phones it's, "iPhone or Samsung"? Eyes would glaze over if I tried explaining that Dell, Lenovo, HP machines etc all run Windows, except the ones that are Chromebooks... and I would never EVER recommend Linux to a normie unless I wanted to forever be their tech support.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by ntfAX »

jacknews wrote: post #45

The problem is the desktop situation is such a mess. Do you go with a gtk or qt desktop and which one? And then X11 which is ancient and creaky, or wayland which is fatally nerfed in design (if not it's entire development philosophy) even when it does do what you need which is far from always? OTOH windows is becoming adware/spyware and macos is becoming big brother lockdown-wear, so maybe it is time for linux to shi…

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