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Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by lopis »

haunter wrote: post #106
electricduck wrote: post #10

I'm kinda surprised this entirely forgot to mention the SteamDeck. I'd love to know how much of an impact that had, considering apparently 3 million units have been sold (according to Valve). Alas, how many of those users know they are running Linux is another question.

By that logic these articles should be about FreeBSD/NetBSD not Linux cause they have more presence by running on every PS3/PS4/PS5. Roughly ~250m compared to the 3m

The Deck can be compared to a laptop computer with specialized controls and a touch screen. It runs a desktop OS, with desktop programs and games. You can use it as a normal desktop computer, connected to a screen and peripherals, and this is by design.

The same can't be said of the PS; the PS isn't a desktop computer.

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Post by rvz »

genmud wrote: post #37
rvz wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article is specifically about ‘desktop’ market share and not the other markets where Linux is used, which is irrelevant.

Agreed, the article is irrelevant because it talks about desktop Linux market share.

No. Read the title again. The title of the article is not talking about server or mobile market share which you bringing that up is irrelevant.

It is specifically talking about desktop market share.

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Post by deaddodo »

fsflover wrote: post #200
deaddodo wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That’s not to be minimized. Sounds like very much on the critical path, and definitely not some shitty infotainment sidecar. If that crashed, you couldn’t control core functions of the sub? Are there overrides? Sure, it's an important component of the entire system. Much as a steering wheel is an important component of a car, it still doesn't "run" the car. You need to interface, yes obviously; but if the machine c…

If the goal of such parallel is to show how Linux is more reliable than Windows, then being the steering wheel is sufficient, compared to Windows not being a part of the car at all.

> For UK subs, they run a similar custom OS for the modules and electronics and (until 2017 or so, at least) run Windows XP for their control computers.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by rvz »

throwaway2990 wrote: post #51
coding123 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linux is irrelevant in other markets?

It is when you’re talking specifically about desktop usage.

Precisely.

Quite hilarious to see some HNers who cannot even read the title of the article and are compelled or have the urge to bring up other irrelevant statistics to hide the little to no desktop usage when compared to other desktop operating systems.

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Post by Gordonjcp »

jacknews wrote: post #45

The problem is the desktop situation is such a mess. Do you go with a gtk or qt desktop and which one? And then X11 which is ancient and creaky, or wayland which is fatally nerfed in design (if not it's entire development philosophy) even when it does do what you need which is far from always? OTOH windows is becoming adware/spyware and macos is becoming big brother lockdown-wear, so maybe it is time for linux to shi…

It doesn't really matter which desktop you pick, they're all the same.

If you went to buy a car, would you be fatally paralysed by indecision at seeing two different makes that looked ever so slightly different parked side-by-side?

Of course not. That would be idiotic.

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Post by whizzter »

bruce511 wrote: post #99
stingraycharles wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure it stings Microsoft a lot more that Windows isn't the dominant server OS.

I'm sure it stings a lot! Windows Server is expensive, and a huge money earner for MS. They currently have around 20% market share (as Internet servers - much higher inside business LANs), which is a very nice chunk. And I'm sure encourages them to keep working on it. Frankly the tooling for MS server keeps it in the hunt - they really understand the concept of making things easier to use.

It might be expensive but I wouldn't at all be surprised if MS already makes more money annually on Linux instances on Azure and I'm almost certain that Windows instances on Azure makes more than the regular enterprise installations.

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Post by Gordonjcp »

jacknews wrote: post #257
thanatos519 wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last time I checked, I could run Qt apps on my MATE desktop and Gtk+ apps on my KDE desktop. I prefer X11 because it's mature and works perfectly for me. I might try Wayland sometime, but it had better support all of the weird things I do with X11. More to the point, the choice is a feature, and it comes with a bit of chaos. Would you rather live in an effectively single-party state like Singapore where everything is…

Honestly it's less like Netherlands and more like Sudan (or France?) sometimes. I've also used linux since SLS for what it's worth. Choice is fine as long as everything can integrate properly and work together. Maybe the desktop could do with a little bit of Singapore's sort-of benevolent-ish dictatorship - that's how the kernel is developed after all.

Lasermoon for me, which was a slight fork of SLS.

Before that, whatever Linux it was it came on about half a dozen 1.44MB floppies. I remember it used a Linux 0.9 kernel, but not much else - except it was a Real Proper Unix System like I had at university, except *on my very own desktop PC*! With a compiler and everything! And SLIP!

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Post by forinti »

DeathArrow wrote: post #291
elektrontamer wrote: post #259

I once installed an Ubuntu 17 on an old desktop and my mother used it just fine. Most people don't need Windows. It's just that it comes with anything you buy and most people won't learn something new unless forced to. And to be fair why should they? They don't mind the extra cost and couldn't care less about our oss. We need to get them when they're young and impressionable and turn them into little linux evangelist…

Take a page from other minorities/activists work and push for affirmative action for Linux in schools, universities and workplaces. If a place uses another OS, that means Linux users are being discriminated against.

My firm was hacked, but only the Windows machines suffered. So there's the value of diversity for you. I'm pushing for some FreeBSD now.

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Post by throwawaylinux »

DeathArrow wrote: post #239
throwawaylinux wrote: post #84

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> Sure, Linux is on many, many devices which have proprietary UIs. And there it does pretty well, because the kernel just provides generic functionality cheaply. It’s a commodity backend that could be swapped with another commodify backend without any users knowing or caring. Hooray. Sour grapes. > Linux is the go to choice when you could just as well be using something else that’s really cheap, like BSD. You actuall…

>They don't use a BSD licensed kernel in many such places (e.g., Android) because Linux is more advanced. More advanced in what sense? There are lots of devices using BSD, so that's entirely possible.

More advanced in terms of supported features and hardware.

Taking one off the top of my head that was relevant around the time Android was being developed, dynamic ticks which is important for low power operation. Linux supported this in 2007 about 5 years before FreeBSD and I think NetBSD still doesn't support it. Could not field a phone OS without that, at least not back in those days.

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