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Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by globular-toast »

hnlmorg wrote: post #114
bruce511 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet not having a presence on the desktop stings a bit doesn't it :). You can conquer the world, dominate every space and yet there's thus little voice inside saying "but you're not good enough. See over there, in that one space, you're a weakling. " Welcome to the human condition.

No. I will use the OS I like and others will use the OS they prefer. It’s called choice. What stung before was that people were forced to use Windows because of lock-ins, software compatibility, etc. That doesn’t really exist any more. If there is one good thing about web apps, it’s that browsers are now the application run time and browsers are more cross platform than any software libraries that have come before it…

Only if said OS exists. It does require a critical mass of users otherwise drivers wouldn't exist for desktop hardware and distros wouldn't exist. We're just lucky that the critical mass is actually quite low.

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Post by globular-toast »

constantcrying wrote: post #140
bruce511 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet not having a presence on the desktop stings a bit doesn't it :). You can conquer the world, dominate every space and yet there's thus little voice inside saying "but you're not good enough. See over there, in that one space, you're a weakling. " Welcome to the human condition.

Who cares? I don't use Linux because it is or isn't popular. Who actually has an emotional bond to the market share of their software? I use Linux because it works for me and makes my life easier, is free/open and because I don't have to deal with Windows.

I care about other people having to suffer a shitty computing experience.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by wheels »

einpoklum wrote: post #219
wheels wrote: post #202

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The lack of pro-audio software is definitely a thing. Mixxx is pretty good though for DJing. It's better than most of the rest of the pro-audio landscape on Linux. There are now also pretty good DAWs (Bitwig, especially). Releasing binaries is still a PITA for Linux. That's one of the main reason it has so little support from closed source consumer software. If you care, see my comment history on my company dropping…

> Releasing binaries is still a PITA for Linux. Is it really that bad? I mean, many small FOSS programs provide packages for multiple distributions. Are they busting their balls building that stuff?

Most of the time those packages, or the build files for them, are contributed by the distributions themselves, or avid users of those distros. (Reference: I have multiple software projects I've created that are a part of every Linux distribution. I've never packaged any of them myself.) Even big enterprise companies usually work directly with the distros under NDA, and the distros produce the packages.

That works for FOSS, but not for smaller closed-source consumer apps. And it's not just building, it's also testing and debugging. It's just not tractable for a small company to test on dozens of different distros / versions for such a small percentage of users.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by DeathArrow »

I am happy to run Linux on servers and Windows on the desktop, for me that means the right tool for the right job.

If other people like to run Linux on the desktop or Windows on the servers, I don't have anything against it. Everyone should run what it suits him best.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by fsflover »

andsoitis wrote: post #3
genmud wrote: post #2

Probably 70 or 80% of cloud workloads are Linux, and like 60% of embedded devices, of which there are billions. And of those embedded/mobile devices, the rest will either be running iOS, vxworks, freertos or zephyr. I think the joke has always been "this is the year of Linux", but in all honesty... it's the decade of Linux. It's probably one of the few areas where there is growth in computing capacity and by far most…

Consumers don't know any of that. The article is about desktop penetration. There was a chance with mobile phones to use and signal Linux, but that didn't happen either. Still, congratulations on hitting 3% desktop share.

> There was a chance with mobile phones to use and signal Linux, but that didn't happen either.

This is plain wrong. Sent from my GNU/Linux smartphone Librem 5.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK »

DeathArrow wrote: post #216
hnlmorg wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. I will use the OS I like and others will use the OS they prefer. It’s called choice. What stung before was that people were forced to use Windows because of lock-ins, software compatibility, etc. That doesn’t really exist any more. If there is one good thing about web apps, it’s that browsers are now the application run time and browsers are more cross platform than any software libraries that have come before it…

> If there is one good thing about web apps, it’s that browsers are now the application run time and browsers are more cross platform than any software libraries that have come before it. I'd take every day a native app running locally over a web app. And I am a web developer.

I have a native app (VS) and a web app (VSC) running side by side on my computer, its like an adult vs 7y old.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by trimethylpurine »

borissk wrote: post #87
COGlory wrote: post #26

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I assume Microsoft SQL?

Microsoft SQL Server runs on Linux and Windows.

But you need SSMS on a Windows client to manage it effectively. Unless you are doing everything cli, which is just not practical in the enterprise. Anyway, running it in Linux is pretty niche. Cool for show and tell, but you need balls of steel if you're going to try running even a small $100 million dollar business on it.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by blackoil »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #49

I wonder why they keep making these articles. Linux is on more computers both today and all of the computers ever made put together than any other OS. It is on virtually all servers on the Internet, the majority OS on phones, its in many TVs and STBs and streaming sticks, its one of the few OSes ever in space, its one of the few OSes ever on Mars, and it is also the OS behind ChromeOS (which that article mistakenly b…

> Linux is on more computers both today and all of the computers ever made put together than any other OS

Depends on what and why Linux. Original dream/vision selling it was a libre OS developed in the Bazaar that will give user full control over their devices against the tyranny of the corporations. You can't with straight face claim that all the billions of phones and embedded devices represent that freedom.

As about kernel, it may be BSD, Linux or maybe even NT or Plan 9, it honestly doesn't matter.

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Post by zirgs »

midoridensha wrote: post #154
self_awareness wrote: post #104

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Exactly my thoughts. I think Linux is in a good sweet spot; popular enough so that applications advertise support for Linux, but not popular enough to be spoiled and optimized for the "casual" user.

There's nothing stopping different organizations from making very different distributions of Linux, with some optimized for casual users and others optimized for techies. We're already had this for ages, with Ubuntu being aimed at more casual users and Gentoo/Arch/etc. being aimed at more technical users for instance. If Microsoft dumped Windows and made a new version of Windows based on Linux internals (but of cours…

Valve is already doing this. Their long-term goal is to be independent from Microsoft and Apple.
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