Thunderbird 115 • Hacker News Board

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by andiareso » Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 2:04 PM UTC

MikusR wrote: post #155

dsr_ wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is not that much of a problem for Thunderbird, which is released for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux, but not IOS. And the Android version is actually K9.

People designing it but not using it is not a problem?

You're speculating, so no?

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by dgellow » Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 2:05 PM UTC

Just curious, does anyone of you know if it is possible to use Thunderbird as a library, somehow? Or is the UI too intertwined with the "mail engine" (i.e something managing IMAP, mbox, maildir, email indexing, etc)? I would be interested to experiment with my own mail client, if I can rely on an existing project like Thunderbird that would make it way simpler to get started :)

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by Derbasti » Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 2:06 PM UTC

jrm4 wrote: post #212

zvmaz wrote: post #116

The tone and level of entitlement of some comments is astonishing. Thunderbird is a free and open source tool, used by many (including me). The least we can do is to be a little nicer.

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Is it JUST WORDS if someone insults you or your work? Or does it still hurt?

At the very least we can be constructive and civil.

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by jwells89 » Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 2:09 PM UTC

diffeomorphism wrote: post #30

shanghaikid wrote: post #15

Just be curious why are people still using email client other than web based one? Gmail or outlook 365 is quite good, and I think most people will have one web browser opened always.

Because you have more than one email address? Or because you want to work offline (e.g. connectivity on trains is bad)? I am more curious why people are still using the very limited web based ones and one for each address, when much more capable and universal local clients exist.

Yes, webmail is a mess if you’re juggling even a few addresses.

Having access to mail offline has saved my bacon a few times, especially while traveling.

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by carlosjobim » Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 2:10 PM UTC

arsome wrote: post #137

jimaek wrote: post #120

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Oh wow that's a huge difference. The first one looks like polished quality software while the second one looks like some junky app made by a solo dev on his free time that doesn't care how it looks like

The first one looks like a massive waste of screen real estate. Glad they fixed it.

Compare the two, and you'll see that it's not really the case. The first one has a narrower sidebar and much more space for the actual e-mail message. The main difference is that the e-mail list in the first shows twice as much in the preview, while the other shows twice as many messages.

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by jeffhuys » Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 2:12 PM UTC

nijave wrote: post #93

Otek wrote: post #82

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Still not sure why this metric is important when you can get 1tb pen drive for $100

In the U.S. Microcenter has an in-store only deal $3.50 for a 64GB USB 3.1 drive right now

Wow, I'd take 10

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by heywhatupboys » Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 2:14 PM UTC

vetinari wrote: post #175

heywhatupboys wrote: post #161

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I'm not sure, does Gnome have image preview in its file browser yet?

It was always available in file browser. The long-standing issue was preview in file picker dialog, not file browser. It is available in GTK4 file picker. You know, major release, able to break ABI.

> The long-standing issue was preview in file picker dialog, not file browser.

I think this is semantics.

Fact it, it took a decade+

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by chinathrow » Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 2:17 PM UTC

bjord wrote: post #198

chinathrow wrote: post #158

JFC, the first image makes me turn mad. The UI was just fine, leave it alone. Long term (25y) of Mozilla Mail/Thunderbird user here.

Are you aware that you're in the minority?

Any data to back this up? (Yes, I also have only one data point).

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by LoganDark » Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 2:18 PM UTC

danpalmer wrote: post #206

nerdponx wrote: post #159

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I like how you conveniently left out that you're using a retina display until maybe your fifth post complaining about this. It's possible that none of the developers can afford to buy a $2000 laptop for testing. If the icons are obviously fuzzy on your machine, grab a screenshot, post a bug on the bug tracker, and let it be. I assume also that you are already a substantial monthly donor. If not, then I think all this…

I'm not going to write feedback because I'm not a user looking for it to be solved. My original comment is critiquing the process that has lead to them shipping software that doesn't meet modern standards – something entirely within the remit of Hacker News discussion. My "retina" display is actually a 4k monitor, a very commonplace and cheap piece of hardware, maybe even the norm nowadays for software engineers.

Not sure about the criticism of marketing screenshots but I also have a 4K monitor, they're absolutely indispensable for staring at code all day and cost less than $100.

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by faefox » Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 2:19 PM UTC

From these comments I can only assume that the Thunderbird project is going to have a lot of new contributors in the near future. :) Create the future you want to see!