From the UI design, it seems like a step backwards to me. The UI on 102 is so much cleaner!
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#112From the screenshots, 102 looks better IMHO.
Given that 115 is on the left and 102 is on the right (with left generally meaning "old" and right generally meaning "new" when laid out like this), along with 102 IMO looking like a more modern and nicer app, I actually assumed that 102 _was_ the update.
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#113I can't believe how janky this still looks after a UI overhaul. Text is misaligned in lots of places, the icons are fuzzy, spacing and padding is inconsistent even within the same areas, there are 3 sets of 3-dot icons in the sidebar in two different axes. It's just careless. Most users don't care about the alignment and spacing and so on in isolation, but they do get a sense of quality from the overall impact. This…
Good software doesn't need to look good, though. Looking good is just a bonus. I don't care in the slightest how it looks because it's still better than the alternatives.
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#114What happened to the look that was announced? [0] The announcement was way more modern than the screenshot that is shown now. [0]: https://developer.thunderbird.net/planning/roadmap
That concept looks so much better than the result, it's not even close.
Re: Thunderbird 115
#115Out of curiosity, what UI framework is used here? Electron? something else? EDIT: On 2nd thought I'm thinking this is XUL, Mozilla's sort of electron equivalent for an HTML/CSS UI?
Afaik https://wiki.mozilla.org/XUL:Home_Page
My understanding is that part of the goal with this UX rewrite is to move from XUL to HTML/CSS as XUL is increasingly unmaintained as Firefox has made the move for most (maybe all by now) of it's UI years ago
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#116The tone and level of entitlement of some comments is astonishing. Thunderbird is a free and open source tool, used by many (including me). The least we can do is to be a little nicer.
Re: Thunderbird 115
#117I looked through the new features list, but couldn't find the "conversational" threads feature which was on the roadmap for Q1 2023. Is this will coming or am I just missing it?
Re: Thunderbird 115
#118What happened to the look that was announced? [0] The announcement was way more modern than the screenshot that is shown now. [0]: https://developer.thunderbird.net/planning/roadmap
All those concepts are made by people who don't use computers on iPads.
Which is not that much of a problem for Thunderbird, which is released for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux, but not IOS. And the Android version is actually K9.
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#119TL;DR: Thanks, I hate it.
It looks like the web version of Outlook. This is not a compliment.
Can I disable the search bar wasting that space? I can count on the fingers of one hand how many times I've used email search over the past 2 years. Three times, for the curious.
Can I disable the preview pane like I can now?
What's "unified" about the folders? What's being "unified"?
I've never tagged an email in my life, but there's the tag panel, taking up loads of space. Can I turn it off?
Sidebar "menus" should be considered a criminal act. Where's the menu bar? Why is everyone determined to force the metaphor du jour onto their applications?
Re: Thunderbird 115
#120I can't believe how janky this still looks after a UI overhaul. Text is misaligned in lots of places, the icons are fuzzy, spacing and padding is inconsistent even within the same areas, there are 3 sets of 3-dot icons in the sidebar in two different axes. It's just careless. Most users don't care about the alignment and spacing and so on in isolation, but they do get a sense of quality from the overall impact. This…
Agree. The differences between the mock-up [1] and the finished version [2] are both quite small, yet make a massive difference in the perceived quality. [1] https://2165533704-files.gitbook.io/~/files/v0/b/gitbook-x-p... [2] https://www.thunderbird.net/media/img/thunderbird/whatsnew/1... The search bar looks good in the mock-up, but bad in the final version due to not being centered, despite being really similar.
Oh wow that's a huge difference.
The first one looks like polished quality software while the second one looks like some junky app made by a solo dev on his free time that doesn't care how it looks like