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Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by folkrav »

AnonC wrote: post #101

FYI, Thunderbird 115 is getting released tomorrow (July 11). Right now, if you visit the Thunderbird website [1] or try to look for updates within the application, you won't find this release version available (you can always get the beta release from the website). [1]: https://www.thunderbird.net/

Aaaah. So that's why I wasn't finding anything, I thought I was going crazy. That landing page seems to hint that it's currently available ("Upgrade to version 115 and experience the future of Thunderbird!").

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by silentsanctuary »

danpalmer wrote: post #92

I can't believe how janky this still looks after a UI overhaul. Text is misaligned in lots of places, the icons are fuzzy, spacing and padding is inconsistent even within the same areas, there are 3 sets of 3-dot icons in the sidebar in two different axes. It's just careless. Most users don't care about the alignment and spacing and so on in isolation, but they do get a sense of quality from the overall impact. This…

Speaking only on the 3-dot icons part - I actually quite like it the way it is.

The visual metaphor is an ellipsis, and accordingly I expect the three dots aligned horizontally to be a continuation of (and hence pertain to) the buttons/options along the same row as it (which it does).

Similarly, I expect the three dots aligned vertically to pertain to options that are in the same column (which it also does).

It's a subtle visual cue that helps me understand what the button is for, and without it I would need to spend more time figuring out what container each button is in (which is a harder task, given that there aren't always visual dividers between containers, or changes in background colour).

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by nik736 »

lousken wrote: post #163

I feel like half of this comment section are senior UX designers. If that is the case, why not pitch in and work on Thunderbird directly?

Sorry but they announced something, hyped users (including me) and didn't deliver (yet). I understand this is a lot of work and it's free software, but it still doesn't feel right and has nothing to do with being senior UX designers. They already announced and showcased a very good looking version of Thunderbird.

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by MikusR »

erremerre wrote: post #84
PinguTS wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remind you, that Microsoft wants go get rid of its Microsoft Office and will make it a Website only.

OneNote was the first one to go from a full office program to be some Modern-UI program, and I have to say that the lost of features is concerning. Like now, you can't easily integrated excels in onenote. Yet, even with those limitations, it is still the mot powerful note application out there. So... I still use it. I imagine that it will be a similar situation with the rest of the office suite.

That Modern one was the version that was actually usable, but they discontinued it.

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by vetinari »

heywhatupboys wrote: post #161
eps wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do they listen to the opinions of random newcomers?

I'm not sure, does Gnome have image preview in its file browser yet?

It was always available in file browser. The long-standing issue was preview in file picker dialog, not file browser.

It is available in GTK4 file picker. You know, major release, able to break ABI.

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by MikusR »

AnonC wrote: post #101

FYI, Thunderbird 115 is getting released tomorrow (July 11). Right now, if you visit the Thunderbird website [1] or try to look for updates within the application, you won't find this release version available (you can always get the beta release from the website). [1]: https://www.thunderbird.net/

And the beta is for 116. So there is no (sane) way to get the discussed and marketed 115.

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by pmontra »

nerdponx wrote: post #139
pmontra wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read mail first on my phone with K9 (the old UI) a few times per day and accept invitations there to put them on my phone, which is always with me. Then I download mail with Thunderbird a few times per week. I use my domain providers POP3 servers. Yes, they bundle a mailbox with each domain. It's also IMAP and webmail but POP3 is better for my use case.

What's better about POP3 for you?

I download from Thunderbird and the messages are gone from the server of the provider.

Of course I keep them there when I download in K9.

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by orra »

nik736 wrote: post #16

What happened to the look that was announced? [0] The announcement was way more modern than the screenshot that is shown now. [0]: https://developer.thunderbird.net/planning/roadmap

I don't think it's a world apart. But the borders are darker in now than in the mockup, and the message card view is way denser. But I'm sure they'll refine these things.

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by geek_at »

zvmaz wrote: post #116

The tone and level of entitlement of some comments is astonishing. Thunderbird is a free and open source tool, used by many (including me). The least we can do is to be a little nicer.

I love thunderbird but I don't understand their update schedules.

I just now got an update (thought it would be to 115) but it's to 102 [1].

In the release notes of 102 it says it was made public only 5 days ago (and they say 115 is coming soon). And seemingly it can't update to 115? Am I missing something here?

[1] https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/102.13.0/relea...

[edit] okay it seems 115 is not yet released as https://www.thunderbird.net/ still links to 102. But the Beta links to 116 (https://www.thunderbird.net/de/download/beta/) so I guess they are still moving things around

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by orra »

tentacleuno wrote: post #149
cortic wrote: post #80

Wonder what the hard-drive footprint this takes now, my version; 60.9.1(32-bit) takes 126MB and i consider that bloated for what it is. At the Thunderbird 60.9 release mark; Pegasus footprint was 30MB, Opera Mail was 38MB, Sylpheed was 28MB, even the Bat was only 50MB. I run Thunderbird portable from a data pen, which is why this metric is important to me (i realize it won't be for the majority of users). Edit; Okay…

> Edit; Okay i know i could buy a bigger data pen, but i also do weekly backups to the cloud and am limited to 7mbps upload, 2g takes 40 minutes, so every bit i can shave off helps. But i want to emphasize i realize it won't be important for the majority of users Curious here: so you continuously upload your Thunderbird executable to the cloud? Why? Most upload+sync solutions worth their salt (FreeFileSync, Syncthing…

True. They may also wish to explore backup up only their settings + data, and excluding unpacked executables.
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