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Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by scarface_74 »

nabla9 wrote: post #77

Apple masters the art of creating artificial product shortages for marketing purposes. They deny it, they say it's some manufacturing issue, but usually it's just marketing. Here is news from 12 years ago where they deny iPhone 4 shortages are just marketing. https://appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/20/apple_denies_crea...

Yes, because shipping a new product at volume is child’s play. Sony still can’t manufacture enough PS5’s to keep them in stock.

They’ve only sold 38 million in almost 3 years - the number of iPhones Apple sells in less than a quarter.

And you’re citing a denial as proof?

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by justapassenger »

shipscode wrote: post #4

Having messed with VR/AR tech since the DK2, the Apple Store presence could be the killer app that VR/AR needs. The manual learning process of ordering special fit lenses, adjusting the headsets, etc would be a great fit with Apple’s store model.

Or, it means that tech is still not ready for a mainstream adoption. You should take it out of the box and it should just work.

I cannot imagine people being excited that they need to go physical store and deal with a staff there to get their fancy new toy.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by chongli »

upon_drumhead wrote: post #60
stevenwoo wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sure sounds like anyone in a household can use it but if anyone has a different eyeglass corrective lens prescription (very likely unless everyone still has 20/20 vision) from the primary user it’s a very substandard experience.

They showed in the demo the switching lenses was easy as they are magnetic. Likely the upfront issues would be getting everyone their personalized lenses, but actually using seems like it would be easy.

Even if they’re magnetic and easy to swap, it sounds a LOT clunkier than just handing someone an iPad. People are going to lose the lenses all over the place.

Heck, my dad loses his phone multiple times a week, necessitating a quick phone call to track it down. Are the lenses going to include built-in AirTags so people can locate them?

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by bobthepanda »

lelandfe wrote: post #80
bagels wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Damaging children in what way?

Product-damaging children, but I like your read better. Though it raises which product of the looky loos is damaging kids.

I imagine the more likely scenario is kids damaging other things with the headset on because they don’t see where they are.

There were a lot of videos in the 2000s of Wiimotes getting swung into TVs.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by pavlov »

Version467 wrote: post #85

The Bigscreen beyond requires a face scan and generates a custom interface to fit each persons face perfectly. Everything I've read indicates that this actually improves fit and comfort. It helps that the bigscreen beyond is incredibly light and small, but the face scan doesn't seem to be a gimmick. The Vision Pro might end up a complete failure, but requiring an appointment and a face scan is not a sign for this.

It makes it a bit harder to create positive word of mouth, though. You can’t just try out the Vision Pro fitted for a friend or family member.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by throw47474777j »

imchillyb wrote: post #39
acer589 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not accurate. You had to have an appoint to try one, but not to buy one.

I was a first-adopter. There were 'fitting' appointments required to purchase the first version. I purchased my Apple Watch through one of these 'fitting' appointments.

This is false. I ordered mine online the moment they first became available. No appointment needed.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by nomel »

amelius wrote: post #16
goosedragons wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Conversely the fact that you need special fit lenses and a store appointment means its going to be hard to test out and hard to buy. You're probably not going to be able to wander past the Apple store in the mall and take a quick peek in and play with the Vision Pro like you can with their other products like the iPad. Nor will testing your friend's necessarily be a good experience. Plus even in the U.S Apple Store's…

> the fact that you need special fit lenses and a store appointment Sounds like a serious shortcoming if you can't share the device with friends and family.

As described during the keynote, they’re magnetically held in place. You would need one set per user.

As someone that wears glasses with VR, it’s awful. The light gasket presses against them, gets tangled. The band presses against them. I can see why they didn’t bother making it an option, since I often put my headset away because of the discomfort. This is why the quest pro has optional light blockers, and why I never use mine. Leaving enough room for comfortably wearing glasses would make things huge.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by scarface_74 »

geraldwhen wrote: post #10
robg wrote: post #2

Wow, imagine if Apple starts integrating their stores with their products into connected life experiences. The stores become showcases for personalized experiences for life, work, and play. Companies are already integrating Watch and VisionPro with biofeedback. Might be something consumers need to deeply experience to believe, from the spatial desktop to music, games, and movies, desk to couch to bed.

Ah yes, the joys of traveling through high crime mall areas to arrive at a crowded Apple Store. At least one has a permanent police presence at the door.

I keep forgetting that the US is an urban hell scape where everyone is required to carry around automatic weapons.

I was in San Francisco last year and walk from the financial district to the pier and I wasn’t nervous at all.

My wife and I “nomad” across the US to major cities across the US half the year. I’m comfortable walking around most places during the day.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by EwanToo »

justapassenger wrote: post #92
shipscode wrote: post #4

Having messed with VR/AR tech since the DK2, the Apple Store presence could be the killer app that VR/AR needs. The manual learning process of ordering special fit lenses, adjusting the headsets, etc would be a great fit with Apple’s store model.

Or, it means that tech is still not ready for a mainstream adoption. You should take it out of the box and it should just work. I cannot imagine people being excited that they need to go physical store and deal with a staff there to get their fancy new toy.

Do you not remember the queues outside Apple stores for early iPhones?

https://youtu.be/bWgd5crvB0U

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by peddling-brink »

justapassenger wrote: post #92
shipscode wrote: post #4

Having messed with VR/AR tech since the DK2, the Apple Store presence could be the killer app that VR/AR needs. The manual learning process of ordering special fit lenses, adjusting the headsets, etc would be a great fit with Apple’s store model.

Or, it means that tech is still not ready for a mainstream adoption. You should take it out of the box and it should just work. I cannot imagine people being excited that they need to go physical store and deal with a staff there to get their fancy new toy.

Have you been to an Apple Store recently? It’s plenty easy to get their products online, but the stores are consistently packed regardless.
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