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Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by JKCalhoun » Sun, Jul 09, 2023, 5:15 PM UTC

anonymouse008 wrote: post #49

They need to go back and read the Newton’s postmortem. With every new detail about this devices release - it’s becoming clearer and clearer this device just is not ready. I was excited iPad apps could be directly ported over to VisionPro - but now after hacking with it in XCode - it’s evident this device and its APIs have no idea that customer intent drives context . This lack of customer awareness is so interesting…

> They need to go back and read the Newton’s postmortem. With every new detail about this devices release - it’s becoming clearer and clearer this device just is not ready.

In fact their actions suggest they already know this. It feels like Apple felt obliged to show .. something, anything .. after so many years of work (7 years? Just a guess).

I think this limited appointment-only release is part of a cautious wait-and-see approach.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by scarface_74 » Sun, Jul 09, 2023, 5:16 PM UTC

chasing wrote: post #27

Kerbonut wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you share your iPhone, iPad, MacBook Pro, AirPods or Apple Watch with friends and family? It’s touted as a work machine first and foremost right? Do you share your work laptop with others? Apple exec logic I’m sure. I get what you’re saying and it’s hard to describe (and never really does it justice) the experience of this technology. It’s something you have to experience yourself to understand.

I share my PlayStation and AppleTV with friends and family. And, yeah, my kid regularly uses my iPad and family members definitely use one another’s phones on occasion. Also the Vision Pro is expensive enough that not every family member will get one — if there’s one in the house it sure would be cool if everyone could use it.

And my sons bought their own PS4s because they wanted to play online games against each other at the same time and not have to share it.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by neilalexander » Sun, Jul 09, 2023, 5:17 PM UTC

imchillyb wrote: post #39

acer589 wrote: post #17

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This is not accurate. You had to have an appoint to try one, but not to buy one.

I was a first-adopter. There were 'fitting' appointments required to purchase the first version. I purchased my Apple Watch through one of these 'fitting' appointments.

I had the original Apple Watch on pre-order from the online store and did not need to visit a physical location for fitting first.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by scarface_74 » Sun, Jul 09, 2023, 5:18 PM UTC

kibwen wrote: post #26

Kerbonut wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you share your iPhone, iPad, MacBook Pro, AirPods or Apple Watch with friends and family? It’s touted as a work machine first and foremost right? Do you share your work laptop with others? Apple exec logic I’m sure. I get what you’re saying and it’s hard to describe (and never really does it justice) the experience of this technology. It’s something you have to experience yourself to understand.

Regardless of Apple's marketing, for the vast majority of people this will be a media consumption device first and a media creation device second, just like the iPad. And you absolutely share your media consumption devices (television, game consoles, iPads) with your family/housemates.

And in a lot of families, parents will buy each child an iPad or a cheaper tablet.

But there will be enough people who will by the headset for them to sell all they can make in the first year.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by JKCalhoun » Sun, Jul 09, 2023, 5:18 PM UTC

geraldwhen wrote: post #10

robg wrote: post #2

Wow, imagine if Apple starts integrating their stores with their products into connected life experiences. The stores become showcases for personalized experiences for life, work, and play. Companies are already integrating Watch and VisionPro with biofeedback. Might be something consumers need to deeply experience to believe, from the spatial desktop to music, games, and movies, desk to couch to bed.

Ah yes, the joys of traveling through high crime mall areas to arrive at a crowded Apple Store. At least one has a permanent police presence at the door.

Ha ha, you are not at all describing my experience with the Apple Store in Omaha, Nebraska. YMMV (your mall may vary?).

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by bagels » Sun, Jul 09, 2023, 5:18 PM UTC

kjkjadksj wrote: post #70

shipscode wrote: post #4

Having messed with VR/AR tech since the DK2, the Apple Store presence could be the killer app that VR/AR needs. The manual learning process of ordering special fit lenses, adjusting the headsets, etc would be a great fit with Apple’s store model.

It would probably consume the entire applestore floorspace with nonbuying looky loos and their product damaging children

Damaging children in what way?

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by nabla9 » Sun, Jul 09, 2023, 5:19 PM UTC

Apple masters the art of creating artificial product shortages for marketing purposes. They deny it, they say it's some manufacturing issue, but usually it's just marketing.

Here is news from 12 years ago where they deny iPhone 4 shortages are just marketing. https://appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/20/apple_denies_crea...

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by bobthepanda » Sun, Jul 09, 2023, 5:20 PM UTC

bagels wrote: post #76

kjkjadksj wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would probably consume the entire applestore floorspace with nonbuying looky loos and their product damaging children

Damaging children in what way?

I think they mean children running around damaging the store and its products.

That being said, it’s not like children aren’t already in Apple stores and they don’t seem to be damaging a substantial amount of phones and whatnot.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by doctornoble » Sun, Jul 09, 2023, 5:20 PM UTC

amelius wrote: post #16

goosedragons wrote: post #9

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Conversely the fact that you need special fit lenses and a store appointment means its going to be hard to test out and hard to buy. You're probably not going to be able to wander past the Apple store in the mall and take a quick peek in and play with the Vision Pro like you can with their other products like the iPad. Nor will testing your friend's necessarily be a good experience. Plus even in the U.S Apple Store's…

> the fact that you need special fit lenses and a store appointment Sounds like a serious shortcoming if you can't share the device with friends and family.

You can. The Vision Pro supports a primary user that retains settings/user account/AppleID and a secondary user with gets a “guest” account that resets.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by lelandfe » Sun, Jul 09, 2023, 5:20 PM UTC

bagels wrote: post #76

kjkjadksj wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would probably consume the entire applestore floorspace with nonbuying looky loos and their product damaging children

Damaging children in what way?

Product-damaging children, but I like your read better. Though it raises which product of the looky loos is damaging kids.