I will do exactly as you say, and delete my account nd never come to this nasty site. Your wish is my command. But in all seriousness this site is very awful and mostly filled with like minded close minded intellectuals that are pushing the mainstream narrative and cannot stand any real diversity of opinion. So rhe joke is on you, funny guy. You should go join a circus.
Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record
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Re: Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record
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Climate change is THE psy op. I know a thing or two about it. I myself was in the climate change camp/cult for a while. The hot weather this summer is driven primarily by the El Nino which is a natural cycle. So yes, we’ll have weird and in some places (especially densely populated cities) hot weather for about 2-5 years, but then I predict temperature will go down. Greenhouse effect is a third order effect, maybe a…
> Edit: I don’t like being robbed on the ability to reply and being gaslit at the same time. “You posting too fast, slow down, thanks” my ass. If anything, it just gives me more reason to believe that there’s a narrative and any and all dissenting voices are being supressed. Under fair conditions, I’d debate anyone on this subject because as I have said previously, I can see through the bullshit. Consider this my las…
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Re: Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record
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They headlined it for emotional impact and clicks. People read "on record" and think it's the hottest the earth has been ever. When it's really 'the hottest' it's been the past few decades. Also, depending on where and how you measure, it will naturally be 'hotter' because the world is getting more urbanized. And cities are artificially hotter. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/city-hotter-co... Are they…
> People read "on record" and think it's the hottest the earth has been ever. I really don't get this kind of straw-man complaint. Do you think people care about average temperature of the world during the Paleoproterozoic? It's like hearing someone saying "Residents scramble as snowfall on Boston breaks record" and then complaining "The entire Boston area was under a mile of ice once!" Yes, we know, and that's not w…
> I really don't get this kind of straw-man complaint.
I didn't make a straw man complaint. Also straw man isn't a complaint. It's a fallacious form of argument.
> Do you think people care about average temperature of the world during the Paleoproterozoic?
You completely missed my point. I don't know if it is intentional or not. Maybe this is a language issue?
> It's like hearing someone saying "Residents scramble as snowfall on Boston breaks record" and then complaining "The entire Boston area was under a mile of ice once!" Yes, we know, and that's not we're talking about.
No. It's like saying 'Boston in uncharted history as Boston breaks snowfall record since last winter'.
Re: Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record
#64We know and have known the earth is warming. Since there is some natural variability, we don’t set a new record every year . But if there wasn’t, we would. And so it shouldn’t be a surprise to us when we do.
It's not concerning that we are setting a new record; we know that's bound to happen. It's the pace of increase that's pushing us towards uncharted territories. We didn't anticipate these rapid changes.
Wasn't the last hottest year like 2016? Seven years ago. Is it really that fast?
We've had a few consecutive years of la nina. This year is the revenge el nino. It was going to be hotter.
Re: Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
> People read "on record" and think it's the hottest the earth has been ever. I really don't get this kind of straw-man complaint. Do you think people care about average temperature of the world during the Paleoproterozoic? It's like hearing someone saying "Residents scramble as snowfall on Boston breaks record" and then complaining "The entire Boston area was under a mile of ice once!" Yes, we know, and that's not w…
> I really don't get this kind of straw-man complaint. I didn't make a straw man complaint. Also straw man isn't a complaint. It's a fallacious form of argument. > Do you think people care about average temperature of the world during the Paleoproterozoic? You completely missed my point. I don't know if it is intentional or not. Maybe this is a language issue? > It's like hearing someone saying "Residents scramble as…
> No. It's like saying 'Boston in uncharted history as Boston breaks snowfall record since last winter'.
... And yet you take issue with me calling it a straw-man argument ...
We know that this is the hottest global temperature since the civilization arose, and most likely quite a bit before that. It's even explained in TFA:
> While the records are based on data that only goes back to the mid-20th century, they are “almost certainly” the warmest the planet has seen over a much longer time period – “probably going back at least 100,000 years,” ...
Re: Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record
#66Not trying to deny anything but with the length of records and a random distribution you’d still expect “hottest year” to happen pretty often. (Somebody please do the statistics) With a very slightly warming planet it would indeed happen quite often. In other words… setting records means something, but less than one would expect by default. The more valid statistic is something like n of the last 30 years have been t…
The earth is in the final stages at the end of an ice age.
It's weird, but for some reason people can't seem to recognize this fact. We exited a major glacial period and have been, for 11000 years, ending an ice age (a period with glacial ice at both polar regions).
CURRENTLY, the period of time we are living in, is considered interglacial despite glaciers still covering significant portions of earth. The expectation is a return to major glaciation. This would be horrible. It is also the predominant condition throughout the history of earth.
Re: Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record
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Wow, the cargo cult science here is beyond surreal. Absolutely speechless. I think the term you are looking for with which to be dismissive is "It's anecdotal." Last I checked, a family of three didn't qualify as A Tribe.
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I'm reasonably sure I couldn't even raise the temperature of the room by five degrees if I straight-up burned all that cardboard, but who knows. More testing needed.
Re: Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record
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If you look at the graph of the last 140 years of global average temperatures it definitely does not look random at all.... it just keeps going up https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/ContentWOC/images/globalte...
It must have been so nice to experience the climate in the 1890s, imagine summers which were just nice and short, winters with beautiful, high quality and consistent snow falls and more permanently snow capped mountains. It must've been quite a beautiful time witness.
And with actual pleasant spring, rather than 10 C one day and 30 C the next.
This was even happening in my childhood, you don't need to go as far back as 1890.
Re: Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record
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I saw an article the other day that we've got coal power stations on standby in the UK to power all the new air conditioning units
There is one coal fired plant remaining in the UK (Ratcliffe-on-Soar), roughly 1.5GW total capacity. A substantial portion of UK electricity consumption is now domestic wind, clean hydro from Norway, and low carbon nuclear from France. Roughly 61% of electricity used came from low carbon sources over the last 12 months. The coal plant in question will be retired next year (October 2024). https://app.electricitymaps.c…
Oh this is a lot less bleak than the title of the article suggested, as you can see I didn't actually read it. Anyway the irony is still palpable, I could almost taste it in the air when I saw the headline
Re: Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record
#70More news at 11. Also get ready to start installing air conditioning in your home.
I saw an article the other day that we've got coal power stations on standby in the UK to power all the new air conditioning units
The angle the press went with is that solar doesn't work when it's too hot so we need to fire up the coal. Except that day solar produced a third of the UKs power, one of its best days of the year and we didn't actually use coal after all. The entire premise of that press push was a serious distortion of reality.