Rather than AC, which just deepens the problem by increasing our energy burn rate, we need more passive solar design. Plus more mixed-use, walkable neighborhoods. Also: Reduce upholstered furniture, books and similar, take trash out more regularly, remove all cardboard from groceries as soon as you get them home.
> Also: Reduce upholstered furniture, books and similar, take trash out more regularly, remove all cardboard from groceries as soon as you get them home. What? I don't understand what any of these things accomplish, let alone a common element between them.
Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record
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Re: Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record
#52Anyone who believes cnn at this point I feel sorry for. They’ve discredited themselves numerous times. They and media more generally are known for selling fear and pushing certain narratives because fear sells. And operation mockingbird was never really concluded. Psy ops are now more ubiquitous than ever. And it’s less hot now than the last few years where I live. And I don’t live in a big city. Big cities are hot a…
If you have ever had to deal with an air conditioner isn't cooling because of low freon, you'd know that the problem is because the coils get.. too.. cold. They get so cold that water in the air freezes around the coils to be the point there is little air flow possible. Why? When the freon is low, the freon expands too much into the coils. More expansion, more temperature drop in the coils. Additionally, the compress…
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you have ever had to deal with an air conditioner isn't cooling because of low freon, you'd know that the problem is because the coils get.. too.. cold. They get so cold that water in the air freezes around the coils to be the point there is little air flow possible. Why? When the freon is low, the freon expands too much into the coils. More expansion, more temperature drop in the coils. Additionally, the compress…
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Which is it?
Was the mean global tempreture higher ("hotter" overall) or was it the same mean global tempreture with the usual climate cell to climate cell washovers making some a bit warmer and others a bit colder.
The assertion of AGW is that mean global tempreture has been essentially constant for some 200K years and has only recently 'suddenly' started to rapidly change (by environmental stability timescales) over the past century as a result of human activity pulling up billions of tonnes of formally buried carbon sequested in fossil fuels.
Re: Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record
#54Not trying to deny anything but with the length of records and a random distribution you’d still expect “hottest year” to happen pretty often. (Somebody please do the statistics) With a very slightly warming planet it would indeed happen quite often. In other words… setting records means something, but less than one would expect by default. The more valid statistic is something like n of the last 30 years have been t…
They headlined it for emotional impact and clicks. People read "on record" and think it's the hottest the earth has been ever. When it's really 'the hottest' it's been the past few decades. Also, depending on where and how you measure, it will naturally be 'hotter' because the world is getting more urbanized. And cities are artificially hotter. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/city-hotter-co... Are they…
I really don't get this kind of straw-man complaint. Do you think people care about average temperature of the world during the Paleoproterozoic?
It's like hearing someone saying "Residents scramble as snowfall on Boston breaks record" and then complaining "The entire Boston area was under a mile of ice once!" Yes, we know, and that's not we're talking about.
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#55Or maybe not? [1] [1] https://temperature.global/
"debunking the climate change hysteria" by munchie and the bearman
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Also: Reduce upholstered furniture, books and similar, take trash out more regularly, remove all cardboard from groceries as soon as you get them home. What? I don't understand what any of these things accomplish, let alone a common element between them.
Yeah, I'm curious as well.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
And it’s less hot now than the last few years where I live That's not how it works. CNN though, I agree, it's complete trash but climate change is not a "psy op".
Climate change is THE psy op. I know a thing or two about it. I myself was in the climate change camp/cult for a while. The hot weather this summer is driven primarily by the El Nino which is a natural cycle. So yes, we’ll have weird and in some places (especially densely populated cities) hot weather for about 2-5 years, but then I predict temperature will go down. Greenhouse effect is a third order effect, maybe a…
Honestly, this site is so awful you should probably just delete your account and never come back. That'll teach us!
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#58Re: Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record
#59We know and have known the earth is warming. Since there is some natural variability, we don’t set a new record every year . But if there wasn’t, we would. And so it shouldn’t be a surprise to us when we do.
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#60After talking about it for thirty, forty years and not doing much more than feeling good about sorting our recycling, we're here at the tipping point. We need to not be talking about "climate change" anymore. We are here at "climate collapse".
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Some people have been saying as loudly as they can "watch out". They haven't been crying wolf, it's just a very slow wolf, but it's teeth are sharp.
> The ice caps still exist, half the world's countries aren't underwater
Is your understanding of climate collapse is limited to the one issue, the melting of the ice-caps, and concomitant sea-level rises?
That's a narrow view that doesn't remotely cover the complexity and scale of the problem. However, addressing that one, single issue:
> Arctic sea ice area (SIA) has been declining rapidly throughout the year during recent decades with a steeper decline since 2000
> Our observationally-constrained projections based on attribution results also suggest that we may experience an unprecedented ice-free Arctic climate in the next decade or two, irrespective of emission scenarios. This would affect human society and the ecosystem both within and outside the Arctic, through changing Arctic marine activities as well as further accelerating the Arctic warming and thereby altering Arctic carbon cycling.[1]
(emphasis mine)
[1] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-38511-8
But as I said, it's a bigger problem than the polar ice melting. It's about the ocean absorbing CO2 and acidifying, inhibiting the growth of the shells of molluscs that live there; it's about over-fishing; it's about coral bleaching; it's about the ocean temperature spiking; the jet-stream; ecosystem encroachment; 200 species a day going extinct -- we're on day 189 of this year, so that's ... 37,800 since January 1st; it's about the increase rate of catastrophic fires.
Even if it "feels" relatively normal today, it's just the water temperature rising so slowly the lobster doesn't realise it's being cooked ...
And you seem to be worried about paying taxes...?