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Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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This is the bottleneck. EUV Photolithography is one of the hardest engineering challenges ever faced, it's like trying to drop a feather from space and guaranteeing it lands on a specific blade of grass. Manufacturing these GPUs at all requires us to stretch the limit of what is physically possible in multiple domains, much less producing them at scale.

Thanks for this explanation! :) (as someone without knowledge of the hardware process I appreciated it). It is SO amazing that we have such a driving force (LLMs/consumer-AI) for this (instead of stupid cryptocurrencies mining or high-performance gaming). This should drive innovation pretty strongly and I am sure the next "leap" in this regard (processing hardware) will put technology in a completely different level.

That's a cool last minute detour from techno gods. We can incentivize AI to work on crypto mining, and regain our fully engaged primeval lives back ;)

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Great point -- I was thinking of renewing my $20/subscription but I will keep it cancelled. We must not fund AI propaganda machines.

Forgive me as I’m out of the loop. What propaganda are you referring to?

These ChatGPT tools allow anyone to write short marketing and propaganda prompts. They can then take the resulting paragraphs of puffery and post them using bots or sock puppets to whatever target community to create the illusion of action, consensus, conflict, discussion or dissention.

It used to be this took a few people to come up with writing actual responses to forum posts all day, or marketing operations plans, or pro- or anti-thing propaganda plans.

But now, you could astroturf a movement with a GPU, a ChatGPT clone, some bots and vpns hosted from a single computer, a cron job, and one human running it.

If you thought disinformation was bad 2 years ago, get ready for fully automated disinformation that can be targeted down to an online community or specific user in an online community...

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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(I work at OpenAI) We're planning to cover the cost for fine-tuning replacement models. We're still working through the exact mechanics that will work best for customers, and will be reaching out to customers to get feedback on different approaches in the next few weeks.

Why does OpenAI demand your phone number, and a particular KIND of phone number at that? For example they won't accept VOIP numbers. I'm not about to give them my real phone number. It's a deal-breaker for many.

I signed up under my .edu to use the $18 credit for a school project and the phone # was all it took to know I was the same person.

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Why does OpenAI demand your phone number, and a particular KIND of phone number at that? For example they won't accept VOIP numbers. I'm not about to give them my real phone number. It's a deal-breaker for many.

I signed up under my .edu to use the $18 credit for a school project and the phone # was all it took to know I was the same person.

That's fine. The question stands though.

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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A reminder that llama isn't legal for the vast majority of use cases. Unless you signed their contract and then you can use it only for research purposes.

OpenLLaMA is though. https://github.com/openlm-research/open_llama All of these are surmountable problems. We can beat OpenAI. We can drain their moat.

> We can drain their moat.

I've got an AI powered sump pump if you need it.

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Great point -- I was thinking of renewing my $20/subscription but I will keep it cancelled. We must not fund AI propaganda machines.

Forgive me as I’m out of the loop. What propaganda are you referring to?

Sam tells Congress that AI is so dangerous it will extinct humanity. Why? So Congress can license him and only his buddies. Then get goes to euro and speaks with world leaders to remove consumer protection. Why? So he can mine data without any consequences. He is a narcissistic CEO who lies to win. If you are tired of the past decade of electronic corporate tyranny, abuse, manipulation and lies, then boycott OpenAi (should be named ClosedAi) and support open source, or ethical companies (if there are any).

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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No, but what is it? Not your lawyer, not legal advice, but it's not a trade secret, they've given it to researchers. It's not a trademark because it's not an origin identifier. The structure might be patentable, but the weights won't be. It's certainly not a mask work. It might have been a contract violation for the guy who redistributed it, but I'm not a party to that contract.

I'm going to play devil's advocate and state that a lot of what you mentioned will be relevant to a tiny part of the world that has the means to enforce this. The law will be forced to change as a response to AI. Many debates will be had. Many crap laws will be made by people grasping at straws but it's too late. Putting red tape around this technology puts that nation at a technological disadvantage. I would go as f…

> How long have they tried to take down The Pirate Bay? Pretty much every permutation of every software that's ever been banned can be found and ran with impunity if you have the technical knowledge to do so. No law exists that can prevent that.

Forms of this argument get tossed out a lot. Laws don’t prevent, they hopefully limit. Murder has been illegal for a long time, it still happens.

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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OK but I mean I don't know them and it could have been someone pretending to be them, and probably it's easily possible to trick me about API keys. We are discussing it on a hacker news website do you seriously think tricks couldn't be hidden in a repo like that.

Do you only use software by people you know? At some point there has to be an element of trust when you run software you downloaded over the Internet. If a small utility maintained by a well-known member of the developer community doesn’t qualify for that trust, then I think that rules out an awful lot of software that all of us here probably use on a day to day basis. This is not an extraordinary level of risk.

> "well-known member of the developer community"

OK sorry I didn't know them.

I mean I usually use software that came with my computer or ones that I apt-install from the official ubuntu distribution. I know it's not perfect security but at least it's more than a hacker news link to a github pip. If I had to use other ones then it's usually from people I know.

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Promote and proliferate local LLMs. If you use GPT, you're giving OpenAI money to lobby the government so they'll have no competitors, ultimately screwing yourself, your wallet, and the rest of us too. OpenAI has no moat, unless you give them money to write legislation. I can currently run some scary smart and fast LLMs on a 5 year old laptop with no GPU. The future is, at least, interesting.

Make a tutorial?

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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I don't get it? text-davinci-003 is the most expensive model per token. It's just that running IRC bots isn't exactly high volume.

"Most expensive" doesn't mean "highest margin", though.

I meant that it probably isn't high revenue.
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