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Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads [pdf]

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Post by TechBro8615 »

This is not a move that a company makes from a position of strength. I like Musk and frequently defend his decisions, and there's no love lost between me and Meta. But Musks's trigger happy litigiousness is pathetic. His obsession with scrapers scraping public content is extremely cringe and betrays his fundamental misalignment with the open web. The fact that Zuck is planning to make Threads compatible with ActivityPub (presumably) is hilarious, especially considering that Musk originally promised to "turn the platform into “something new that’s decentralized.”" [0]).

[0] https://www.wired.com/story/twitter-had-a-plan-to-fix-social...

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads [pdf]

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Post by Loughla »

ethanbond wrote: post #129
Loughla wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bingo. Any story involving the name Musk and Twitter is better than a story involving JUST Threads. NOT to get too political - but - people like Musk and Trump and their ilk are just the natural progression of the PR focused United States culture. Spin and story are just as good as skill and intelligence. Being able to control a narrative is a superpower that leads to massive connections, wealth, and power. This is w…

"Amusing Ourselves to Death" by Neil Postman is an excellent deep dive into this dynamic and how unbelievably toxic it is for our society.

I love that book. I actually cited it in the last federal grant I wrote. Along with some Naomi Klein because I was feeling spicy.

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads [pdf]

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Post by badwolf »

dodgson wrote: post #11
perlgeek wrote: post #7

Big accusations, little evidence presented so far.

Can’t deny a bunch of people who used to work for Twitter now work for Meta, though! I wonder why…

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0YH3xBaQAAjs3L?format=jpg&name=...

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads [pdf]

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Post by orwin »

whateverman23 wrote: post #128
adam_arthur wrote: post #124

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Do you agree or disagree that techproducts today are easier to build than 15 years ago? Everything else is irrelevant. Technology drives abstractions which drive deflation by allowing fewer people to produce more goods. This has been proven and observed for thousands of years Companies can thrive while overemploying people, but eventually they get undercut by one that doesn't

You're conflating two different topics: 1. "Its easy to find many examples of apps that were challenging to build even just 10 years ago, that are somewhat trivial now." Correct. It's easier now to build apps that we used 10-15 years ago. 2. "Do you agree or disagree that techproducts today are easier to build than 15 years ago?" Incorrect. Tech product complexity has increased in many ways in the last 15 years (and…

I'm automating network engineering. We still hire network engineers, and while scale/regulations are big reasons why, do not forget security.

This can trigger entirety new projects. Some industries still transfer their driver updates in sealed, marked usb sticks to their clients. A lot of companies invested in IOT in the past 5 years, and just recently decided they wanted all their connected stuff to go through specific Cisco routers. Security is my SWE job security.

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads [pdf]

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Post by brasic »

JohnFen wrote: post #117
ksaj wrote: post #101

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I don't know the specifics, but the license included with that code will specify what can and can't be done with it. ~~Not all open source is free to use in your own code base. Sometimes it is open sourced for review purposes.~~ Edited: the last line is incorrect.

> Sometimes it is open sourced for review purposes. Huh? I'm not aware that it's possible to open source something without, you know, making it OSS. Am I mistaken, or are we talking about two different meanings for "open source"?

I assume OP was referring to “source available” schemes where the source is published or sometimes selectively disclosed but not licensed for anything other than review, ie you lack the right to run or copy it.

Needless to say, it’s not accurate to call that “open source”.

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Post by swozey »

JohnFen wrote: post #63
swozey wrote: post #53

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It's not. Musks mother and father showed their displeasure in the idea and now he won't do it. No, I'm not being facetious. https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/elon-musk-mother...

That's not what the article you linked to says. It says > Despite the concerns raised by Elon’s parents, plans to hold the fight at the Vegas Octagon are moving forward.

Wow you're right. I somehow skipped right over that. I even read it again to make sure I had the context right. I wasn't sure if his mom had literally said "don't do that!" or just inferred it in a tweet like she actually did ("I can't like this")..

Thanks

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads [pdf]

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Post by nubinetwork »

tracerbulletx wrote: post #43
sergiotapia wrote: post #31

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Twitter doesn't have a single trade secret or important technology worth stealing. Replicating it is a social problem, not a technical one.

I've written a twitter clone in PHP once, it's not hard. Throw in some Ajax to auto refresh, and you'd have something similar to what they have been using this whole time.

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads [pdf]

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Post by user_named »

ajorgensen wrote: post #127
upon_drumhead wrote: post #123

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I believe > What use is a follower graph if it doesn't correlate to the accounts on your platform? Is asking about the point of scraping your Twitter social graph if they can’t actually align it with accounts on the platform. If you follow foo bar on Twitter, it doesn’t mean that foo bar on threads is the same foo bar. The Twitter social graph is useless unless to try to map to meta accounts.

I would venture to guess that 80%+ of the handles are the same on both, enough for the graph to be useful especially for the more popular accounts. If not I bet there’s enough other metadata to do a decent job of mapping them it doesn’t have to be perfect just good enough to get the recommendation engine going. At least enough to bootstrap a recommendation algorithm that is geared more toward primary accounts that cr…

Who cares about your guess? You're just doubling down on your previous faulty argument, and anyone would know that there is not a 1:1 between handles on Instagram and Twitter
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