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Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads [pdf]

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Maybe the facts will bear out that there’s a case here, but my default position is one of skepticism. I guess one takeaway for me is if you don’t want your competitor to hire a bunch of your former employees, don’t make a bunch of your employees former employees.

It's the same attitude Steve Jobs had about former employees going to Google to make Chrome. What makes Jobs and Musk such effective CEOs is they're very possessive and vindicative.

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads [pdf]

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When is the Elon/Zucc fight happening, anyways?

It's not. Musks mother and father showed their displeasure in the idea and now he won't do it. No, I'm not being facetious. https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/elon-musk-mother...

That's not what the article you linked to says. It says

> Despite the concerns raised by Elon’s parents, plans to hold the fight at the Vegas Octagon are moving forward.

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads [pdf]

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Great news for tech workers imo. Part of the tech labor market downturn has been driven by skepticism over the costs: if Twitter can slash its workforce and keep running just fine, why can’t other companies? Well, Threads swooping in to rapidly drain Twitter’s market share might change that reasoning.

Are there really more than a few hundred people working on Threads?

I believe Twitter had ~7,500 at its peak. Even if Threads succeeds, its not going to be because they have meaningfully more employees. Cloning twitter is a fairly easy technical problem nowadays... in contrast to early 2010s era of no-cloud, poor infra management and so on

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads [pdf]

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Musk is throwing shit on the wall in a hope something will stick.

100% I think this is the most likely case. I just noticed a couple things, explicit follower graph/following data called out in the letter and the timing and abruptness of the rate limiting change that made me think there's a chance there's more going on behind the scenes. Total conjecture of course but thought the two data points were interesting.

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads [pdf]

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Off-topic, but is it just me or is “very truly yours” a strange signature prefix for this kind of email? I’d expect that only in cases of intimacy.

The first page of search results for "Very truly yours" includes a forum thread asking why lawyers sign letters that way, so apparently it's just a standard form.

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads [pdf]

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It's decades old tactic from Musk. One of the things he's really great at is SEO. He is trying to shift narrative from Threads hyper growth to whatever random lawsuit he's threatening them with.

Bingo. Any story involving the name Musk and Twitter is better than a story involving JUST Threads.

NOT to get too political - but - people like Musk and Trump and their ilk are just the natural progression of the PR focused United States culture. Spin and story are just as good as skill and intelligence. Being able to control a narrative is a superpower that leads to massive connections, wealth, and power.

This is what we asked for when we invented PR and advertising. We're reaping what we sow and nobody wants to eat the harvest.

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s zero seeded content in threads and it would be stupid of meta to do so. They just needed to pay some influencers to get higher quality content cheaper then scraping it all.

I disagree... follower graph would be pretty important to bootstrap a Twitter like experience. My follower graph on Twitter looks quite different than Instagram or Facebook. The letter also explicitly calls out follower graph and following data which is why I mention it.

What use is a follower graph if it doesn't correlate to the accounts on your platform? They have pushed this claim without evidence and Meta has denied them outright. The onus is on Musk's team to produce proof now.

Re: Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s zero seeded content in threads and it would be stupid of meta to do so. They just needed to pay some influencers to get higher quality content cheaper then scraping it all.

I disagree... follower graph would be pretty important to bootstrap a Twitter like experience. My follower graph on Twitter looks quite different than Instagram or Facebook. The letter also explicitly calls out follower graph and following data which is why I mention it.

Meta already has a massive follower graph from using Instagram for signin.

When I logged in to Threads, it added my entire follower list of hundreds from Instagram.

Also, Instagram already links Instagram accounts with Facebook accounts for the majority of users so they graph is even bigger than that (with Facebook friends).

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