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Tea as Hepatoprotective Agent: A Revisit

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Re: Tea as Hepatoprotective Agent: A Revisit

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Post by tom_ »

gumby wrote: post #27
azeirah wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't know any stats from the top of my head, but I recall that oesophageal cancer is caused by drinking _hot_ tea, not by drinking tea per sé.

> drinking hot tea, not by drinking tea per se. It is unclear to me that there is any way to drink tea than other than piping hot. I have heard horror stories that suggest people have attempted to drink cold tea but I figure such tales are merely intended to provoke disgust.

I've always found tea acceptable at a wide range of temperatures. Room temperature to boiling, it's all good, same as water. (But not same as red wine or beer, the other 2 types of liquid I will drink.)

I do admit this rule does very much not apply when mixing tea with milk!

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Post by Aerbil313 »

anjel wrote: post #13
gumby wrote: post #3

I've been a dedicated tea drinker since my teens, so this is great news. OTOH what I worry about is oesophageal cancer. Not sure of the prevalence.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32740163/ Compared to those who consumed 65°C had a more than 1.8-fold higher risk of esophageal squamous cell carcinoma for both green tea and black tea.

We are the most tea-drinking country in the world afaik, Turkey. We’re fine, but one particular city (Erzurum) has a weird tradition of putting a sugar under the tongue and drinking the tea very hot to (probably?) dissolve it easily. They drink it almost out of the teapot, boiling-hot. They have very high rates of esophagous cancer.

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Post by atomicnumber3 »

Alex3917 wrote: post #24

Interesting, considering how many people get liver damage from taking green tea extract and EGCg.

The dose makes the poison I suppose. Also I wonder who drinks more water than those who drink it flavored by leaves? I wonder if just drinking a lot of water is part of the effect.

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Post by darkclouds »

switchbak wrote: post #5
jerry1979 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What will happen if someone tries this?

I’ve experienced tingling sensations, like pins and needles, not sure if that’s what they’re referring to.

The paresthesia you refer to when taking beta alanine is much less intense than the paresthesia experienced if doing 500mgs of nicotinic acid. Side note. If anyone drops 500mg of nicotinic acid, the skin flushing effect and inflammation which can be likened to the sunburn effect, will be seen most where the skin is exposed to UV light because it rebinds the frayed strands of DNA in cells.

Its not what I'm referring to though.

Re: Tea as Hepatoprotective Agent: A Revisit

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Post by frickinLasers »

FollowingTheDao wrote: post #12
jerry1979 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What will happen if someone tries this?

Taking beta-alanine will increase Carnosine synthase activity and probably lead to a depletion of magnesium and/or manganese since they are the co-factors for the enzyme. So this effect will differ based on genetic and nutrition. https://www.uniprot.org/uniprotkb/A5YM72/entry

and the tea?

Re: Tea as Hepatoprotective Agent: A Revisit

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Post by gumby »

Cerium wrote: post #9
jemmyw wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I usually cool my tea with a splash of milk. But I do then drink it very quickly at an elevated temperature.

Avoid drinking liquids hotter than 140 f. One interesting "test" - take a sip of the liquid, and it does not seem that hot, put your finger in your mouth with the liquid and your finger might feel too hot.

> Avoid drinking liquids hotter than 140 f.

I often drink plain hot water (pot from kettle into cup; no trip through the teapot). I have always assumed it is safe. Perhaps I should reconsider?

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Post by russh »

qzw wrote: post #30
gumby wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> drinking hot tea, not by drinking tea per se. It is unclear to me that there is any way to drink tea than other than piping hot. I have heard horror stories that suggest people have attempted to drink cold tea but I figure such tales are merely intended to provoke disgust.

Cold tea does indeed provoke disgust. Iced tea, on the other hand, is quite its own art form.

As a programmer, every hot drink is only hot for the first few sips; all others range from lukewarm to room temperature.
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