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Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)

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Post by virgulino »

sgt wrote: post #371
virgulino wrote: post #345

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Now four.

How is living in Florianópolis or in southern Brazil? Just out of curiosity. Lifestyle good?

Florianópolis is a peculiar little island. It has gotten much bigger and trendier in this millennium.[1] But it is still the island of witches and other supernatural creatures.[2] As a dinosaur from the 8-bit era, I appreciate and resent both worlds. As a first generation islander (manezinho), I am neither Little-Endian nor Big-Endian . I love it here.

On top of that, we are in the mullet season. [3]

1 - https://youtu.be/fEK53W3Y-vE

2 - https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=florianópolis+frank...

3 - https://youtu.be/9YftNiFyQ9E

Re: Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)

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Post by pixl97 »

mcpackieh wrote: post #407
pixl97 wrote: post #358

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Right, art can only be anti-establishment... Might as well cancel the law and put up Wal-mart signs.

I assert that establishmentarian propaganda is soulless trash, and you conclude that I want more corporate propaganda? You seem very confused.

So you've established yourself as the arbiter of what is both establishment and propaganda... Did you become the thing you hate?

This may be a case where you spend so much time trying to be contrarian and not asking "Would getting what I want actually improve anything in the world".

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Post by robocat »

soapdog wrote: post #395
mcpackieh wrote: post #213

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I don't want a neo-Duchamp putting a port-a-potty in my neighborhood and spitefully calling it art.

Good lord, there is so much more to Duchamp than that urinal. Also, it misses then point of my comment in its entirety. It is about what intention is behind the work, not about the piece themself (a bit more complex than that but that is enough for a small comment).

So what was the intent behind the Urinal?

Your choice to smush intent and Duchamp is weird.

What intent is in a stolen piece of work presented fraudulently throughout Duchamp's life as his own, and still widely treated as iconic and used as an example of a movement. What value the criticism built upon a lie? There is plenty of unintentional art in this story!

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Post by robocat »

soapdog wrote: post #396
pmoriarty wrote: post #172

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Why does it matter if we call it art or not?

Because many people will refuse to call an art piece art in an effort to dismiss that work as valid. Not calling it art is a form of gatekeeping.

Thou art irony

Re: Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)

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Post by m463 »

rbanffy wrote: post #381
leonheld wrote: post #105

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I live here and oh God I fucking that that billboard so much. It fills me with pure rage.

I think only the owners and the advertisers like it. Would a couple high power microwave transmitters pointed at it be able to increase maintenance cost enough for them to give up?

> I think only the owners and the advertisers like it.

Isn't that true of all advertisement? sigh.

Re: Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)

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Post by sgt »

virgulino wrote: post #411
sgt wrote: post #371

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is living in Florianópolis or in southern Brazil? Just out of curiosity. Lifestyle good?

Florianópolis is a peculiar little island. It has gotten much bigger and trendier in this millennium.[1] But it is still the island of witches and other supernatural creatures.[2] As a dinosaur from the 8-bit era, I appreciate and resent both worlds. As a first generation islander (manezinho), I am neither Little-Endian nor Big-Endian . I love it here. On top of that, we are in the mullet season. [3] 1 - https://yout…

Thought you meant mullet as in the hair style. Some kind of bizarre Brazilian version of Movember.

Re: Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)

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Post by matheusmoreira »

gota wrote: post #9

> Seven years on, the world's fourth-largest metropolis and South America’s most important city remains free of visual clutter and eye sore that plagues the majority of cities around the world. Unfortunately it suffers greatly - to a ridiculous level, in some places - from that ugliest kind of grafitti, convoluted "tags" made in single-stroke black ink I'm not sure if that is the case everywhere but in Brazil people…

I'm OK with that. Vandalizing buildings is obviously a crime but I'd rather look at street art and vandalism than ads. At least it has soul.

Re: Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)

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Post by matheusmoreira »

rbanffy wrote: post #381
leonheld wrote: post #105

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I live here and oh God I fucking that that billboard so much. It fills me with pure rage.

I think only the owners and the advertisers like it. Would a couple high power microwave transmitters pointed at it be able to increase maintenance cost enough for them to give up?

Someone here on HN once floated the idea of someone taking a paintball gun and going to town on these obnoxious billboards. Truly the hero we need right now.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28969142

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Post by baanlox »

robocat wrote: post #182
soapdog wrote: post #147

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As someone who graduated from an art school, let me be another voice here to say that you're absolutely wrong. Art is about intentionality and process. Duchamp and Wahrol are prime mainstream examples of that. The intervention in urban equipment is art. Making it yours, sharing it with the world, the dialectical dialogue between the mural and the surrounding cityscape, there is so much to unpack here. Also, comic boo…

I think your example of Duchamp is incorrect (and I’m an engineer not an arts graduate) Attempting to cast yourself. as knowledgeable and then using Duchamp without understanding his history shows lack of taste IMHO. Duchamp stole his signature artwork from Baroness Elsa von Freytag-Loringhoven: a 1917 letter Duchamp wrote to his sister, Susanne, translated: “One of my female friends who had adopted the masculine pse…

Duchamp and not Basquiat in this context is rather dubious to say the least.

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Post by philwelch »

thebradbain wrote: post #406
philwelch wrote: post #228

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Boston City Hall is a sublime architectural expression of the maxim, “you can’t fight city hall”. It’s an inhuman, authoritarian concrete bunker that makes the citizen feel lower than rat shit. Its highest artistic purpose would be if it were demolished with high explosives to celebrate the Fourth of July.

I completely disagree— walking around inside Boston City Hall, and any well-designed Brutalist building in general, makes you feel like you’re in some sort of natural rock formation. Brutalism prizes honesty over anything else— the necessary structural elements are the form, and everything else gets out of the way. And that’s why walking through a good Brutalist building often feels refreshing, or like you’re an expl…

Have you ever walked inside of a natural rock formation? Like a cave or something? They look nothing like that. Those photos look like the inside of a prison.
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