Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)

Post by gnramires » Tue, Jul 04, 2023, 3:45 PM UTC

Luctct wrote: post #83

kibwen wrote: post #57

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> Since this law was adopted, there's been an increase in full building graffiti, which is not banned. Now 10 years later, it is more likely to see one of these nowadays than an empty outdoor frame Nearly all of these look like murals, not graffiti (these are distinct forms of street art). Regardless, those photos are beautiful and I'd love to have those instead of billboards in my city.

Neither murals nor graffiti is art. None of those would have been accepted in any gallery some 30~40 years ago when standards were higher and the world didn't suffer from the high number of grown-up men who are hooked up on comic books and animated cartoons it suffers through today. A lot of it is just vandalism. None of it seems to be made by or for adults. 99% looks like it's made by some comic book fan on LSD. Alw…

Post by tchaffee » Tue, Jul 04, 2023, 3:46 PM UTC

mewmew07 wrote: post #55

gota wrote: post #9

> Seven years on, the world's fourth-largest metropolis and South America’s most important city remains free of visual clutter and eye sore that plagues the majority of cities around the world. Unfortunately it suffers greatly - to a ridiculous level, in some places - from that ugliest kind of grafitti, convoluted "tags" made in single-stroke black ink I'm not sure if that is the case everywhere but in Brazil people…

does the amount of tagging/bombing influence the rent prices there?

Post by leonheld » Tue, Jul 04, 2023, 3:50 PM UTC

kroltan wrote: post #36

I lived until recently in Florianópolis, one of the state capitals of Brazil. It is a naturally beautiful island city, and it has an iconic bridge leading into it ("Ponte Hercilio Luz" if you want to search for photos). For some god forsaken reason, someone got away with building a gigantic - and I mean GIGANTIC - screen billboard right in line of sight of this historic postcard. I don't recall when it was installed,…

Post by gota » Tue, Jul 04, 2023, 3:52 PM UTC

namaria wrote: post #102

gota wrote: post #25

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I'm not arguing for or against that - I'm just stating a fact (there's a lot of pichação in São Paulo) and an opinion (I find it extremely ugly, even if I do like grafitti, including the more artistic and colorful tags)

> to separate it from grafitti (which evokes some form of art) You seemed to be implying pixo is not art tho. Funny thing is, American use of the world graffiti was precisely to deride stuff that they didn't consider 'urban/street art'. Just some youth made graffiti tags...

Post by jxf » Tue, Jul 04, 2023, 3:52 PM UTC

endisneigh wrote: post #58

jxf wrote: post #56

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Most people don't think that nature is an eyesore, and many national parks are significant tourism generators for their local economies.

I’m not sure concrete buildings are natural, and these ads were not found primarily in national parks so I don’t see the relevance. Ironically most of the arguments against ads also apply to housing which is why there’s a global housing crisis. A lack of nuanced thinking about trade offs