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Of course not. The Hadean was a tropical paradise known for its diversity of life. That's why it was named after the Greek god of fertility (Poe's law applies).
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#92Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites
#93I believe Temperature is now a politicized measure, therefore it forever impossible to know it's true value.
I agree in the sense that global warming is about the temperature of the oceans, not the atmosphere. The oceans are essentially a very large thermal battery. I immediately know the article is trash the moment they start blaming global warming for how hot or cold it is today rather than broader weather patterns. The upper and lower bounds for temperature at a given time of year are far more dependent on geography. It'…
It's trivially easy to see that all this "record breaking" is just recency bias, not global warming.
This makes no sense. Are they not just comparing numbers? Or do you suggest that when they compare numbers to see which number is bigger, they add a bit to the number from this year because they have a recency bias?
Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites
#94I believe Temperature is now a politicized measure, therefore it forever impossible to know it's true value.
that is a useful stance for someone who argues for the status quo. label anything you don't like "fake news" or "fake science" and go on whistling past the graveyard.
Similarly useful for everyone opposing change. Today everything contradicting ones view of the world is labeled as "anti-[whatever]", "[whatever]-denialism" and "fake news". Everything is so ridiculously polarized that constructive discourse is impossible.
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#95Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites
#96The climate denialism on this site is ridiculous, considering the average education and pay rates of the users on this site.
average education and pay have nothing to do with it. a lot of hn users are bazingapilled techno-opportunists.
climate breakdown confronts two axioms for what is probably a sizable userbase of this site:
- nothing (bad) ever (really) happens
- advancement of technology and industry solves all problems
they have no incentive to be any other way. because of the high pay and education, most of these people will be able to live comfortably within the confines of the global north and presumably wealthy nation-state for the rest of their lives.
Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites
#97How does someone measure the average global temperature? And what does it means? The Wikipedia[0] has one interesting source[1] but what they show there isn't an average. My guess would be that somehow satellites can measure the surface temperature and use that to make an average? I would be very happy if someone could some point me to some explanations about this process. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_s…
There are two sets of satellites that measure the temperature of the global troposphere, and have been doing so for over forty years. The data from one of them, UAH, is analyzed here.[0] It is increasing at 0.13C per decade, averaged over 44 years. [0] https://www.drroyspencer.com/2023/06/uah-global-temperature-...
Interesting that until Remote Sensing Systems revised their historical data six years ago, no warming trend was evident. How could they have been so wrong for such a long time?
https://www.carbonbrief.org/major-correction-to-satellite-da...
https://www.drroyspencer.com/2017/07/comments-on-the-new-rss...
Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites
#98It bears repeating, the carbon dioxide/methane doesn't have any impact on global warming (troposphere warming?) until it reaches sufficient height. It takes 2-3 years for the methane to reach those heights, and 20+ for the carbon dioxide. The average increase in temperature we have now is caused by 2003's emissions. Other informations about how all this work (basic, incomplete, but better than what I usually hear): G…
Carbon dioxide takes 20+ years to reach the stratosphere? Gases with higher molecular weights like halogenated ozone depleting substances reach the stratosphere in no more than 5 years: https://www.epa.gov/ozone-layer-protection/basic-ozone-layer... Ozone depleting substances that release chlorine include chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs), hydrochlorofluorocarbons (HCFCs), carbon tetrachloride, and methyl chloroform. ODS th…
Probably depends on the % threshold you set, as it asymptotically approaches some equilibrium.
Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites
#99The climate denialism on this site is ridiculous, considering the average education and pay rates of the users on this site.
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Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites
#100The climate denialism on this site is ridiculous, considering the average education and pay rates of the users on this site.
You should also consider the field and expertise of the users. Also, I am not specialized in data science but even I know that at some point, it is just so easy to cook up whatever conclusions you want if you have a big enough dataset. So I imagine that those who works with data analysis all the time eventually get jaded whenever they heard someone demanding drastic, even unreasonable, changes based on data they foun…
The idea that the data in this case is ambiguous is laughable and has been for 20 plus years.