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Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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post #37

It bears repeating, the carbon dioxide/methane doesn't have any impact on global warming (troposphere warming?) until it reaches sufficient height. It takes 2-3 years for the methane to reach those heights, and 20+ for the carbon dioxide. The average increase in temperature we have now is caused by 2003's emissions. Other informations about how all this work (basic, incomplete, but better than what I usually hear): G…

Very interesting. Please can you suggest a reference?

Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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post #34

I believe Temperature is now a politicized measure, therefore it forever impossible to know it's true value.

that is a useful stance for someone who argues for the status quo. label anything you don't like "fake news" or "fake science" and go on whistling past the graveyard.

Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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post #21

How does someone measure the average global temperature? And what does it means? The Wikipedia[0] has one interesting source[1] but what they show there isn't an average. My guess would be that somehow satellites can measure the surface temperature and use that to make an average? I would be very happy if someone could some point me to some explanations about this process. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_s…

Next I want to learn how they measure Earth's entropy.

Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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post #34

I believe Temperature is now a politicized measure, therefore it forever impossible to know it's true value.

I agree in the sense that global warming is about the temperature of the oceans, not the atmosphere. The oceans are essentially a very large thermal battery.

I immediately know the article is trash the moment they start blaming global warming for how hot or cold it is today rather than broader weather patterns. The upper and lower bounds for temperature at a given time of year are far more dependent on geography. It's trivially easy to see that all this "record breaking" is just recency bias, not global warming.

Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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Such records are going to get broken pretty much every year. Shouldn't really be "news".

As long as we keep not doing any meaningful to stop those records to be broken, is good to be reminded that we are getting closer to hit a wall.

Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

#46
post #37

It bears repeating, the carbon dioxide/methane doesn't have any impact on global warming (troposphere warming?) until it reaches sufficient height. It takes 2-3 years for the methane to reach those heights, and 20+ for the carbon dioxide. The average increase in temperature we have now is caused by 2003's emissions. Other informations about how all this work (basic, incomplete, but better than what I usually hear): G…

Im don't have enough knowledge to know how accurate that is, but if true that is both fascinating and worrying.

I say this simply because I figured warming at any level would be an issue but what you say sounds plausible.

I have some reading to do.

Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s supposed to be Congress’ job to do something, but unfortunately they appear to be useless.

Open your eyes to the possibility that maybe, just maybe, SCOTUS kicked it back to Congress purely because Congress is useless and won't do anything.

We have considered that possibility, assessed it, and determined that was not the case. Onto the next thing.

Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

#48

Such records are going to get broken pretty much every year. Shouldn't really be "news".

It should be news everywhere each and every day until we do enough about it so it isn't any more IMHO

The effects of Global Warming should've been featured in sciency publications like Times Magazine at least three decades ago.

Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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post #37

It bears repeating, the carbon dioxide/methane doesn't have any impact on global warming (troposphere warming?) until it reaches sufficient height. It takes 2-3 years for the methane to reach those heights, and 20+ for the carbon dioxide. The average increase in temperature we have now is caused by 2003's emissions. Other informations about how all this work (basic, incomplete, but better than what I usually hear): G…

Carbon dioxide takes 20+ years to reach the stratosphere? Gases with higher molecular weights like halogenated ozone depleting substances reach the stratosphere in no more than 5 years:

https://www.epa.gov/ozone-layer-protection/basic-ozone-layer...

Ozone depleting substances that release chlorine include chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs), hydrochlorofluorocarbons (HCFCs), carbon tetrachloride, and methyl chloroform. ODS that release bromine include halons and methyl bromide. Although ODS are emitted at the Earth’s surface, they are eventually carried into the stratosphere in a process that can take as long as two to five years.

I would expect gases with a lower molecular weight to blend into the homosphere even faster.

Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a great way to make everyone ignore it. Calling it a "crisis" does the same thing, the first time you hear crisis you get worried, then you realize it's a very very slow moving thing and you start ignoring them. Being alarmist helps no one. Just be factual about it, it's not the news media's job to rile people up or get them to take some kind of action.

It has been the warmest day in the history since anyone starting measuring, and the summer days haven't started globally yet is a pretty factual way to put it in my book

I agree. But don't call it "Climate Crisis", that just sounds silly, and will make people ignore you (it's also not factual since a crisis is something that happens quickly). "Global Warming", or "Climate Change" work perfectly fine.
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