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Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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For me, in the context of the climate change discussion, I knew exactly what it was trying to communicate. I did not find it particularly sensationalized. > Would love to see a source for that. False. If you’d love to you would have at least given it a quick Google and found plenty of relevant papers. There are thousands of studies that would communicate what I just said with a basic Google Scholar search. If you’re…

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Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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> Then who are these kind of headlines (ie, "Hottest day ever!") for? Given they are factually incorrect how so?

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i mean, yeah, back when the earth was formed i'm sure it was VERY much hotter than it has been in recent millennia

(are you attempting a "global warming isn't real and/or not human-induced and/or 'just part of the regular cycle of things'"...?)

Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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It's literally in the first paragraph of TFA: > This Monday, 3 July 2023, was the hottest day ever recorded globally, according to data from the US National Centers for Environmental Prediction. Key phrase: "ever recorded globally" It's obviously not the hottest day ever because four and a half billion years ago during the Hadean [1] the surface temperature of the earth would have been hundreds of degrees centigrade.…

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Of course not. The Hadean was a tropical paradise known for its diversity of life. That's why it was named after the Greek god of fertility (Poe's law applies).

Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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For me, in the context of the climate change discussion, I knew exactly what it was trying to communicate. I did not find it particularly sensationalized. > Would love to see a source for that. False. If you’d love to you would have at least given it a quick Google and found plenty of relevant papers. There are thousands of studies that would communicate what I just said with a basic Google Scholar search. If you’re…

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Your tone is out of line with HN guidelines.

Emotionally laden, sure. But it’s not garbage.

Our inhabitation is sustainable in part because of sensational climate science. It plays an important role in keeping our effect on the planet in check.

As far as you not finding a source: it doesn’t surprise me. With your attitude, you’ll never find anything. I did a quick search as a sanity check and the first hit (just Google, not Google Scholar even) had exactly what I would send you if this argument was worth my time.

Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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The climate denialism on this site is ridiculous, considering the average education and pay rates of the users on this site.

You should also consider the field and expertise of the users. Also, I am not specialized in data science but even I know that at some point, it is just so easy to cook up whatever conclusions you want if you have a big enough dataset. So I imagine that those who works with data analysis all the time eventually get jaded whenever they heard someone demanding drastic, even unreasonable, changes based on data they found.

Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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Global average temperature is not a well-defined statistical measure and can be surprisingly difficult to measure given large regional random and systemic variation in the measurement, including sampling effects.

But, if you live near some mountains, you can look at them and compare to pictures taken 50 years ago and draw some conclusions about precipitation and temperature trends at the top of your local mountain range over the last 50 years. When I don't know what and who to believe anymore, that's what I usually do.

Also, nothing is preventing anyone from getting a thermometer and measuring + charting daily local temperatures themselves.

Does anyone want to write an app with me, where you can record and chart your daily ground level local temperature where you live, and discuss it with others?

Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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Your tone is out of line with HN guidelines. Emotionally laden, sure. But it’s not garbage. Our inhabitation is sustainable in part because of sensational climate science. It plays an important role in keeping our effect on the planet in check. As far as you not finding a source: it doesn’t surprise me. With your attitude, you’ll never find anything. I did a quick search as a sanity check and the first hit (just Goog…

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Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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The climate denialism on this site is ridiculous, considering the average education and pay rates of the users on this site.

Someone once commented "HN is a reactionary site" and (while I don't 100% agree with that) I keep thinking about it from time to time.
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