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Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by hakanensari »

goalieca wrote: post #516
Topfi wrote: post #126

Speaking from very painful, personal experience, few things are more agitating than being forced to execute on something you fully know is a horrible idea, especially when you tried and failed to communicate this fact to the individual pushing you to go against your best judgement. Even more so when that person later loudly proclaims that they never made such a request, even when provided with written proof. I can of…

I’ll play the devils advocate here but frontend devs need to smarten up. This is basic error handling that should have been in place for years. Blocking tweets with 403 or whatever they chose shouldn’t trigger endless retries on short intervals.. ever!

Just speculating, but the server is probably throwing 429 (Too Many Requests) errors, and yes, the client should respect and back off when it encounters that. According to the post, it seems not to. Strange!

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by bombolo »

edanm wrote: post #767
joe__f wrote: post #762

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are telling people who are being abused that it's their fault that they didn't leave. This is victim blaming.

Are you really considering a tough work environment at a high tech company to be abuse? At company that little voluntarily choose to be employed at? Do you know what conditions are like in most jobs?

Freedom to be exploited or be homeless…

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by croes »

tmpz22 wrote: post #413

Can we please recognize that this is a holiday weekend and Elon rammed a big release forcing his engineers to come in and iterate multiple patches over the last 12 hours.

And?

These are the hardcore programmers of Twitter 2.0, aren't they?

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by johannes1234321 »

jjulius wrote: post #681
johannes1234321 wrote: post #474

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So many things are useless, but still entertaining in one way or another. And then Twitter is used for "relevant" information as well, from emergency or transport authorities using it for quick information instead of having their own system to news of any kind or discussions and information exchange in different peer groups. Considering that they count all tweets being loaded towards the quota (for instance replies t…

>And then Twitter is used for "relevant" information as well, from emergency or transport authorities using it for quick information instead of having their own system to news of any kind or discussions and information exchange in different peer groups. I really don't think it's wise to be putting so many eggs in one basket, convenient as that might be. This right here is a strong example of that.

It's hard to compete with something free, with many users.

If those information providers weren't on Twitter (well, a year back, nowadays may be sifferent) they'd be ridiculed.

Of course using Twitter as only/primary channel is and always was questionable, but alternative systems are more expensive.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by shapefrog »

hvis wrote: post #692
martincmartin wrote: post #373

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The people at Twitter who understood the system and could predict the side effects were all fired or left. My guess is Elon said "the site's too slow!" Engineers noticed that the home feed request was slow. They didn't understand how it worked, had no tools to profile it, and were given an unrealistic deadline to fix it. So about the only thing they could do was issue multiple, parallel requests and hope that at leas…

> My guess is Elon said "the site's too slow!" Seems more like a thinly disguised attempt to force people to purchase subscriptions. Blue checkmarks and all.

> Seems more like a thinly disguised attempt to force people to purchase subscriptions. Blue checkmarks and all.

6k tweets a day even with the blue mark of shame makes something like tweetdeck functionally useless.

Obviously Elon and I have different uses for "The Worlds Town Square"

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Post by kaonashi »

eql5 wrote: post #791

Here's a guy who understands what's REALLY going on: https://twitter.com/i/status/1675254646942896128

American censorship has long relied on the manipulation model rather than the overt removal model, because the former is far more effective.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by smcl »

brigandish wrote: post #724

> There must have been an insane nest of logic that the devs had to tiptoe through to make the service workable as a private only service. It seems that this statement can lead to different conclusions based on one's biases for or against Musk / freedom of speech: 1) The code base is a mess because the smaller, current team don't know what they're doing and/or management (i.e. Musk) is pushing them too hard and makin…

Why do you say Twitter is moving in a positive direction? My experience is that I dislike their app and they killed the one I liked (Tweetbot), it's frequently down (I still get the "Something went wrong" error), and any kind of conversation is dead because blue-check replies (usually quite low-quality) are prioritised. There are other reasons to dislike today's Twitter that I needn't go into here, but these are enough to turn me away any time I decide to come back and check it out again.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by ziftface »

maxlin wrote: post #850
lolinder wrote: post #627

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About 80% of Twitter was laid off or quit. I think it's a reasonable supposition that a good number of those were critical personnel who felt they could get a better deal somewhere else.

This rhetoric is well past its peak. When the firings happened, people said twitter would crash in a week. It's been a long time since then, and twitter, for my very generic uses and purposes, has just gotten better. Demonizing past hard decisions at every unrelated point of difficulty has to be the worst kind of toxicity there is.

Can you explain how the Twitter experience has gotten better for you?

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by pwdisswordfishc »

EdwardDiego wrote: post #420
Sparyjerry wrote: post #285

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True, the rate of improvements has been insane. I use it pretty often and haven't even noticed a second of unavailability even today and right now, not to say I use it 24/7 though. It's pretty obvious some people have a political bend to their hatred of Twitter so any second something isn't perfect they jump on it. It's really a sad state of affairs really.

Political bent? Can't I just think Elon Musk is a twat without it being somehow political?

No, because considering anyone a twat is inherently a (small-p) political judgement.

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Post by WeylandYutani »

maxlin wrote: post #845
Topfi wrote: post #126

Speaking from very painful, personal experience, few things are more agitating than being forced to execute on something you fully know is a horrible idea, especially when you tried and failed to communicate this fact to the individual pushing you to go against your best judgement. Even more so when that person later loudly proclaims that they never made such a request, even when provided with written proof. I can of…

That's nothing. Instead hopping on the bandwagon hating on the thing we all use and care about, a situation where you would know a solution but are not allowed to act because of fear of even trying anything is so much worse. Especially when you know of it for a very long time and are not even allowed to try, while also being ostracized and being "that guy" for suggesting it repeatedly. Talking of different technical…

Don't use Twitter and don't care in the slightest if it goes down.

Will admit that seeing a billionaire go mental is funny. Petty I know.

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