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Post by ruffsl »

gverrilla wrote: post #621
optymizer wrote: post #309

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Internet I loved was full of random forums and text websites. If anything, I'm rejoicing and hoping this will mean less centralized forums. Y'all realize you can just not use reddit and Twitter right? You can host your own forum on the Internet

What is the easiest and cheapest way for me to host my own forum online and invite people I know to talk? Consider I know very little about hosting, web dev, php, etc. I'm actually interested in doing this! Thanks.

There are also a number of hosting providers cropping up with manage deployments for Lemmy with single click setups if you'd rather offload that:

> Do you foresee more hosting providers offering one-click, fully managed, ActivityPub deployments?

> https://programming.dev/post/136548

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Post by o1y32 »

optymizer wrote: post #309
swat535 wrote: post #267

Taking into consideration how much Spez thinks of himself as a Musk, we should be expecting Reddit to implement the same feature soon. We are just sitting by the sideline watching as the internet we all loved slowly dies in the hands of greedy corporations. This is truly a sad state of affairs.

The Internet I loved was full of random forums and text websites. If anything, I'm rejoicing and hoping this will mean less centralized forums. Y'all realize you can just not use reddit and Twitter right? You can host your own forum on the Internet

As pointed by countless people before me -- the hard part is not necessarily the hosting itself (which is still hard and could be a problem at a certain point), but to moderate -- to filter out spams, insults and illegal stuff etc. That is a time black hole. You have to admit that reddit does a much better job at fending off spams than an average forum.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by pavlov »

jeroenhd wrote: post #806
pavlov wrote: post #753

Hopefully this marks the end of posting direct tweet links to HN. I’ve been avoiding clicking Twitter links, and it’s frustrating to see them on the HN front page but then having to infer the content from comments. Maybe HN could even have a “Submit a microblog link” feature for that kind of content? When submitting a microblog link, there would be a small text box where you could copy the content of the tweet/whatev…

You realize you don't have to click on every link, right? If someone publishes something on Twitter/Tumblr/Facebook and you don't like the form on that particular website, you can just ignore it and move on.

There are never Facebook or Tumblr links on the HN front page. Twitter seems to be the only proprietary social media that has enjoyed enough hacker cred to get upvotes.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by belter »

kakakiki wrote: post #599

From Elon's twitter ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1674942336583757825?s=20 ) "This will be unlocked shortly. Per my earlier post, drastic & immediate action was necessary due to EXTREME levels of data scraping. Almost every company doing AI, from startups to some of the biggest corporations on Earth, was scraping vast amounts of data. It is rather galling to have to bring large numbers of servers online on an…

Planet Earth Inhabitants in 2023: 8 Billion -> Social Media Users -> 4.8 Billion -> Twitter Users -> 368 million active users who engage at least once a month. If those AI Models are being trained on a reduced set of 3% of human beings, they will lose a lot.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by johnnyanmac »

benjaminwootton wrote: post #683
kakakiki wrote: post #599

From Elon's twitter ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1674942336583757825?s=20 ) "This will be unlocked shortly. Per my earlier post, drastic & immediate action was necessary due to EXTREME levels of data scraping. Almost every company doing AI, from startups to some of the biggest corporations on Earth, was scraping vast amounts of data. It is rather galling to have to bring large numbers of servers online on an…

Elon has a good point there. Much of the current AI hotness is predicated on stealing peoples content and exploiting the infrastructure that other people have built. I don’t think it’s acceptable. The licenses, compensation models, law, technical solutions, attribution, security and privacy all need time to catch up. Regulation has a role to play as its a bit of a free for all right now. The irony of Elon mentioning…

I can't really agree. We've already had rulings about data scraping and I don't see the difference here. Just that a lot of people do it now?

Also, Twitter is a public platform. Twitter didn't generate comments, and people posting on a public account are indirectly subject to public viewing. Not much different from being indirectly recorded in a public park

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by bb010g »

Terr_ wrote: post #245
darknavi wrote: post #121

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It's extremely rough around the edges but getting into fediverse content (mastodon, kbin, lemmy, etc) has been extremely rewarding to me. It's like twitter and reddit but 15 years ago (and by that I mostly mean it's janky and full of bugs. Just like the web was 15 years ago!)

For me the main barrier is that I want to have portable/roaming control over my IDENTITY , even if the content hosting is (for now) entirely through a system administered by someone else. If I control the identity, I can at least keep local copies and rehost/repost content later. Instead, it feels like the current Fediverse demands that I make a blind choice to entrust not merely a copy of my content but also my whol…

Keep an eye on Key Event Receipt Infrastructure (KERI). https://keri.one/

Current spec drafts at https://github.com/WebOfTrust/keri>.

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Post by xigoi »

dangus wrote: post #422
m4jor wrote: post #333

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Lemmy.ml's admin is pro chinese government and actively censors comments that are critical. What that means to you is your decision, but I want to make people aware before the mass migration date arrives. https://old.reddit.com/r/Save3rdPartyApps/comments/14k67qt/l... Highly sus

Isn’t that just one instance? You don’t have to join that one.

It's the official instance, so it has a privileged position.

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Post by delijati »

kakakiki wrote: post #599

From Elon's twitter ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1674942336583757825?s=20 ) "This will be unlocked shortly. Per my earlier post, drastic & immediate action was necessary due to EXTREME levels of data scraping. Almost every company doing AI, from startups to some of the biggest corporations on Earth, was scraping vast amounts of data. It is rather galling to have to bring large numbers of servers online on an…

that's just a justification to force user to create an account ... he killed the api that already had an rate limit ... its so obvious that it hurts

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Post by jojobas »

zmmmmm wrote: post #337

It always irked me that public institutions embraced Twitter as a primary means of communication in many cases. It never seemed right that a private company was being put in between public functions and the the public which depends on them. Not to mention, since I live outside the US, a private company in another country. I even wrote complaints to one local public body to ask them to set up a communication channel t…

Public institutions should have known better than rely on a private whim without any kind of obligation to make their feeds available. RSS is piss easy to configure, they should have done that and encouraged people to use their RSS aggregator of choice for important things.
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