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Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Ugh, what an eventful time of social media this has been. First Twitter API, then Reddit API, so today Apollo and many more Reddit clients shut down, and now Nitter. :-( I'm happy Lemmy is kind of taking off. I think it's helped more than Mastodon because it's less realtime/feed focused and slower paced. It also doesn't require you to form a friend circle to benefit. Instead, the community is waiting for you already.…

Every keypress is a history navigation!!! What madness is this?

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN doesn’t really have a business model so I’m not sure how much it can be corrupted. I guess if YCombinator ever gets tired of paying the bills , but I’d imagine having a majority(?) of startup/tech employees visit your site almost daily is quite good for them in indirect ways

HN business model is to perpetuate YCombinator's culture. It's probably some of the most effective money YC spends.

Cult, you mean?

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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post #135

I’m using twitter as much as ever, the live content is just too good to pass up, I set up Lists and use it to read only the category I want and you don’t need to follow them. You don’t have to like Elon but the stuff people write(given the right profiles), the concentration of it, isn’t really offered anywhere else.

Do you have some examples of these lists?

I’ve wanted to do something similar to Mastodon where you can follow hashtags.

Sounds like you might have solved that?

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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post #110

This killed nitter. Fuck. I guess I'm done with Twitter. Reddit is in Eternal September. Twitter is login-walled. If HN is next, I'll probably be mostly done with the Internet. This version of the Internet is starting to suck. :(

HN doesn’t really have a business model so I’m not sure how much it can be corrupted. I guess if YCombinator ever gets tired of paying the bills , but I’d imagine having a majority(?) of startup/tech employees visit your site almost daily is quite good for them in indirect ways

I assume that if HN ever caused them any serious PR damage, they'd pull the plug that day. It's always been made clear that it's a single-server site sitting somewhere that was written as a hobby a long time ago. That kind of nothing cost they're willing to take on indefinitely, but not any serious bad media cost. I've always felt that was the reason for the heavy moderation, especially as compared to the anarchic early days. Even with the salaries of dang et al. expenses are probably a rounding error.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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post #85

Ugh, what an eventful time of social media this has been. First Twitter API, then Reddit API, so today Apollo and many more Reddit clients shut down, and now Nitter. :-( I'm happy Lemmy is kind of taking off. I think it's helped more than Mastodon because it's less realtime/feed focused and slower paced. It also doesn't require you to form a friend circle to benefit. Instead, the community is waiting for you already.…

I really like lemmy too. I think the biggest issue is that people think of Lemmy itself as the replacement of reddit.com. But what makes more sense to me is thinking about Lemmy as a tool to build separate websites that are each a replacement for reddit.com and that these can interoperate with each other to grow based on the local users interests. I think the biggest hurdle is figuring out where to create your first…

> I think that's the biggest hurdle is figuring out where to create your first account.

Agreed. I think the barrier would be lower if I knew I could migrate my identity to another instance if the first one became sketchy or shut down or de-federated.

Instead AFAICT I have to choose not just what community to join and where the content will initially live, but also which of these random groups to trust with my identity indefinitely going forward.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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post #85

Ugh, what an eventful time of social media this has been. First Twitter API, then Reddit API, so today Apollo and many more Reddit clients shut down, and now Nitter. :-( I'm happy Lemmy is kind of taking off. I think it's helped more than Mastodon because it's less realtime/feed focused and slower paced. It also doesn't require you to form a friend circle to benefit. Instead, the community is waiting for you already.…

I really like lemmy too. I think the biggest issue is that people think of Lemmy itself as the replacement of reddit.com. But what makes more sense to me is thinking about Lemmy as a tool to build separate websites that are each a replacement for reddit.com and that these can interoperate with each other to grow based on the local users interests. I think the biggest hurdle is figuring out where to create your first…

Yeah, good point about instances being communities! It’s like how the Star Trek one did it and my mind boggled when I realized you could (and someone has done so) make a national Lemmy _instance_ rather than just a /r/mycountry. And then everything there is localized! So you basically have a social news _site_ in your language that can federate with all the rest.

Of course, this goes for any major interest category but it just hit me the hardest so far to realize this.

Another cool development would be a science-oriented Lemmy instance with lots of special purpose sciency stuff.

Viewed like this, the sky is the limit for Lemmy and it could have potential to grow a lot!

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Taking into consideration how much Spez thinks of himself as a Musk, we should be expecting Reddit to implement the same feature soon. We are just sitting by the sideline watching as the internet we all loved slowly dies in the hands of greedy corporations.

This is truly a sad state of affairs.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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post #110

This killed nitter. Fuck. I guess I'm done with Twitter. Reddit is in Eternal September. Twitter is login-walled. If HN is next, I'll probably be mostly done with the Internet. This version of the Internet is starting to suck. :(

I'm cautiously optimistic about Lemmy. Anyone can spin up an instance, so it's decentralized, but instances are connected, so there's community. It may still be rough around the edges, but to me it feels like the spirit of the old phpBB forums combined with almost 20 years of lessons learned from Reddit.

Can servers be ad supported? Like can I run a Google ad on my own instance?

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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I just ran into this problem -- not being able to view tweets without logging in. As much as I hate Musk, this is clearly the trajectory of all platforms. Without a unified push towards self-hosting or the fediverse, the internet as we know it is over :(

>... the internet as we know it is over :(

Disagree. I'd frame it as the "popular web" as we know it is over. There's plenty of other space on the internet for other web experiences that are different from what corporations have given us over the past two decades.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Been over for a long time. We've had a lot of consolidation into Reddit (which, you can browse mostly anonymously, it will just beg you to death to log in unless you use the old site); and we've also had a mountain of consolidation into Discord (the most unsearchable system ever designed). People stopped hosting their own forums. Frankly, it's hard to not see why. The constant spam and people avoiding bans wasn't hel…

Reddit is under no obligation to continue supporting the old site.

If they want me and millions of others to use it they are.
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