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Or forget the laws. I will buy a car that doesn't stream data. My current vehicle doesn't and I have never felt the need. My next one wont either ... not if I have anything to say about it.
The question is, why does a car have to at all? And no, the closest we are is a car that could share data with the OEM, if you wanted, and we don't. As long as possible, I'd pass hard on cars where you don't have that choice.
>At Tesla we believe that security and privacy are core tenets of any modern technology. Customers should be able to decide what data they share with third parties, how they share it, and when it can be shared. We've developed a decentralized framework: "Fleet Telemetry" that allows customers to create a secure and direct bridge from their Tesla devices to any provider they authorize. Complete non-sequitur. “We care…
...can't activate a phone without connecting to apple
...privacy policy is hundreds of pages
...can't block apple
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I’m not ignorant of your concerns, but that’s what privacy laws are for. These third parties have been scrapping Tesla APIs at the behest of their customers for years. This is nothing new, simply more formalized. If the laws are insufficient, that’s a call for better laws (which I agree are needed). The apps I use do not sell their customer data, but Tesla should probably stipulate API integrations aren’t permitted t…
Or forget the laws. I will buy a car that doesn't stream data. My current vehicle doesn't and I have never felt the need. My next one wont either ... not if I have anything to say about it.
Funny thing I wanted to point out though, you sound like one of those people who say "I will buy a car that runs on gas, I've never wanted a vehicle that runs on electricity and my next one won't either... Not if I have anything to say about it".
I feel like I've seen so many of those comments lately... I want to ask why?
It's like me saying something like "my phone doesn't have a screen. I've always had an analog connection and I've never felt the need to have a digital screen and any smart apps on my phone... Etc etc not if I have anything to say about it."
Or perhaps even something like not wanting an automatic transmission because a manual transmission is the only way to go lol..
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Or forget the laws. I will buy a car that doesn't stream data. My current vehicle doesn't and I have never felt the need. My next one wont either ... not if I have anything to say about it.
Cool, but there are people who like to look at data, like Wh/km and efficiencies at different temperatures etc. Funny thing I wanted to point out though, you sound like one of those people who say "I will buy a car that runs on gas, I've never wanted a vehicle that runs on electricity and my next one won't either... Not if I have anything to say about it". I feel like I've seen so many of those comments lately... I w…
The parent isn't rooting for ICE, he's rooting for having a vehicle that doesn't stream data to the outside.
There is nothing that mandates that a vehicle -whatever its technology-, must send all its data to external servers.
I, and many others, want to have the right to possess a car that isn't relying on external connections to work, and doesn't send all its data out.
It's more akin to wanting a TV that's not connected online. Some people like the added features of a smart TV, but some just want a dumb screen that doesn't sell their viewing habits, or screenshots of what's on the screen to third-parties.
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The question is, why does a car have to at all? And no, the closest we are is a car that could share data with the OEM, if you wanted, and we don't. As long as possible, I'd pass hard on cars where you don't have that choice.
With a Tesla you do have that choice. https://www.tesla.com/en_eu/legal/privacy
The different OEM approaches between the US and EU show you how important legislation is. Especiqlly since Tesla's zrack record regarding privacy is abysmal.
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Disable and delete seem to just mean "hide from the end user" these days.
"Soft delete", and it's a requirement in almost everything
In reality though, I assume they still do it and merely pretend they comply with it.
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With a Tesla you do have that choice. https://www.tesla.com/en_eu/legal/privacy
If it is in the EU, yes you do. Just compare the difference between what Toyota does with customer data in the US and the EU. Preferably, I can remove the sim card myself and all connectivity stops. If I cannot do that hardware wise myself, I havw to assume I am tracked. The different OEM approaches between the US and EU show you how important legislation is. Especiqlly since Tesla's zrack record regarding privacy is…
Any particular examples you can share with us?
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With a Tesla you do have that choice. https://www.tesla.com/en_eu/legal/privacy
If it is in the EU, yes you do. Just compare the difference between what Toyota does with customer data in the US and the EU. Preferably, I can remove the sim card myself and all connectivity stops. If I cannot do that hardware wise myself, I havw to assume I am tracked. The different OEM approaches between the US and EU show you how important legislation is. Especiqlly since Tesla's zrack record regarding privacy is…
> If it is in the EU, yes you do
>At Tesla we believe that security and privacy are core tenets of any modern technology. Customers should be able to decide what data they share with third parties, how they share it, and when it can be shared. We've developed a decentralized framework: "Fleet Telemetry" that allows customers to create a secure and direct bridge from their Tesla devices to any provider they authorize. Complete non-sequitur. “We care…
Same as apple. "privacy is a fundamental human right" ...can't activate a phone without connecting to apple ...privacy policy is hundreds of pages ...can't block apple
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I have bad news for you. This exact topic has been discussed on my local radio station (in a medium sized city) and loads of callers described working at a photo lab where there was a drawer full of copies of "noteworthy" photos. I think it's apples and oranges though. With a photo lab the customer has deliberately handed over whatever images they want developed, whether the images are private or not. Tesla employees…
If an employee at a hotel planted secret cameras and... If an vacation rental landlord planted secret cameras and... Bad news all around.
Yes, secret cameras can get the host in trouble, but poke around at airbnb listings and you'll see cases where everyone reports highly visible internal cameras.
I'm not saying its good.