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Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

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Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

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Leaded gasoline will really blow your mind, at least it did for me Edit: Figuratively not literally, haha!

It was known to be harmful back in 1920s when it was introduced

But it solved a problem that got in the way of selling you things!

It's also still used in most every prop engine that flies over my house everyday at a normal schedule, so we still haven't solved the problem of leaded gas. We never will (in my lifetime).

Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

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It's always surprising to me how quick we are to go from discovering a chemical to mass-producing it. We're only just figuring out all of the negative externalities of things like PFAS, and they're in absolutely everything (packaging, clothes, pizza box linings, food cans, cookware...)

Leaded gasoline will really blow your mind, at least it did for me Edit: Figuratively not literally, haha!

Interestingly, the inventor of leaded gasoline also invented freon.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Midgley_Jr.

Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

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Donald Rumsfeld was famously influential in getting aspartame's approval ; however more of the story behind this can be found here: https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/8846759/Nill,_As... In 1984 the year after aspartame's approval for soft drinks, the company that held the exclusive patent on it, sold $600 million worth (1984 dollars) of it. Myself the truly distasteful part is the use of neotame (a follow-o…

> Myself the truly distasteful part is the use of neotame (a follow-on to aspartame) on animal feed, to get animals to eat feed that they normally would not; for instance, if the feed is rancid or otherwise in a condition/taste that normal animal instincts, would have the animal reject the food... True for human food as well. Maybe it’s not rancid, but food science can make terrible ingredients taste great. Take Dori…

I think it's disingenuous to say that cornmeal is just animal feed. Polenta has been a thing for a long time.

Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

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Just returned from Ireland and every 'regular' soda was full of disgusting artificial sweeteners. In the usa these would be labeled diet. And of course sucralose was pretty common and we're now finding scary things about its harm to the human body. Sugar really isn't that bad..

Just because we're finding out many sugar replacements are bad doesn't mean that sugar isn't bad in high doses as with sugary drinks.

Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

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Just returned from Ireland and every 'regular' soda was full of disgusting artificial sweeteners. In the usa these would be labeled diet. And of course sucralose was pretty common and we're now finding scary things about its harm to the human body. Sugar really isn't that bad..

As a biologist, I can tell you that sugar really is bad. All sorts of nasty effects (e.g., look at the RAGE gene and pathway). Of course, that doesn't mean artificial sweeteners are a good alternative. Limiting added sweeteners of any kind is a good idea, just hard to follow.

Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

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This is awful reporting.

Aspartame has been studied for more than 40 years and no regulatory body in any country has found it to be cancerogenic; it is a risky substance for people with a rare desease called Phenylketonuria.

So, the reader will be under the impression that it will cause cancer, which is pretty dubious, all while obesity for which sugary drinks are partially responsible is a very real cancer risk.

Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

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It's always surprising to me how quick we are to go from discovering a chemical to mass-producing it. We're only just figuring out all of the negative externalities of things like PFAS, and they're in absolutely everything (packaging, clothes, pizza box linings, food cans, cookware...)

3M knew about the negative "externalities" of PFAS 50 years ago, they just decide YOU didn't nee to know. https://theintercept.com/2018/07/31/3m-pfas-minnesota-pfoa-p... It's the same with oil companies having studies on climate change privately, while discounting climate scientists publicly. Profits over People is the way of Capitalism!

I'm always surprised by this when it's "50 years ago".

Certainly the scientists and analysts at 3M who collected and analyzed the data would have thereafter known of it's extremely harmful effects.

And I don't mean to open this up to "heh yea well they made bank!" I don't think they did relatively speaking.

My main question, is that certainly those scientists would have been advising their friends and families to stay away from X, Y, and Z products because they contain PFAS?

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